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Another take on TMT - Aggrieved native Hawaiians
#1
On another TMT thread, a commentator wrote: universal question "why can’t we all just get along?"

To which Kalakoa replied briefly: “Because money.”

Exactly. I would not suggest that Kalakoa intended to bolster the position of TMT opponents, but the answer stands by itself, IMO.

Money=Power and Money=Land and Land=Power and so the circle goes. George Cooper’s and Gavan Daws’ 1990 book Land and Power in Hawaii provides useful instruction on the past flow of power in our state.

And native Hawaiians were not--and are still not--prominent in the equation. And their general dissatisfaction relates to their opposition to TMT.

A crude analogy: In the 1992 Rodney King riots, you did not want to be a white guy in the black neighborhoods. You were going to get your ass kicked. The rioters didn’t necessarily think you did anything. It didn’t matter. They were going to target any party remotely associated with the people causing them grief, even if they were just the same race. (They could not effectively challenge the rulers in the courts, the police and city hall who caused their problem: out of control cops.)

The TMT plan, a big-money project that would involve a fair number of educated, well off people coming here from different parts of the world, is contestable, challengeable. Native Hawaiians are going to contest some things as a matter of course. One thing relevant to them is how many things they cannot effectively contest.

Can’t contest all the new mainlanders taking over the shorelines with their big houses. Public access blocked (Kailua); landowners building mega-mansions (North Shore Kauai), landowners planting vegetation to keep people from walking in front of their homes (Waimanalo). On some coasts landowners persuaded officials to put in public parking limits. The mainlanders’ big money ensures that planning officials either collude or acquiesce.

Most people who arrived in Hawaii recently do not fathom the importance of shorelines to local culture. In the past 30-40 years the level of damage and disruption to the “coastal commons” has been extraordinary. (Now here are natural sites of spiritual value.) Native Hawaiians have long revered shorelines as gathering places (i.e., gathering to meet others). Many mainlanders are downright dismissive. The shoreline fronting their McMansion is now their new front yard.

Can’t contest the military’s appropriation of some Hawaiian land.

Can’t contest the disproportionate number of native Hawaiians who have fallen through the cracks--homeless or in prison.

Can’t contest a key issue for many working native Hawaiians: affordable housing. The lecture to them runs something like this: What’s your grievance, cheap housing? The problem, Hawaiian, is that you are lazy. What? Rents have close to tripled since 1980 while wages have risen only some 60-80%. That’s just the way it is. What, people in 1980 could have a fair life working 40 hours a week? We don’t care.

Look at yourself; you’re fishing on the weekends. That’s not cost effective. Want more food? Work longer hours and then go to Safeway. And you’re surfing. Surfing. We told you back in the 1800s and we’ll tell you again: There’s no value in that. Get a weekend job, Hawaiian.


The list could go on.

Contestable TMT happened to come into the sights of native Hawaiians, IMO. Perhaps the native Hawaiians perceive that the telescope community is commandeering the mountain.

There might be some religious belief being trampled here. IMO, the TMT supporters are correct: 1) Mauna Kea’s spiritual value has been much exaggerated and 2) the physical and historical evidence that would demonstrate such value is slim.

Be that as it may, the opposition is likely to persist. TMT might be a clear benefit to our state, but somehow I can’t help but sympathize with the native Hawaiians.
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#2
What’s your grievance, cheap housing? The problem, Hawaiian, is that you are lazy.

That could be solved in an instant, and it has nothing to do with the TMT or anything else you listed.

The Department of Hawaiian Homelands is holding land meant for the Hawaiian people in a bureaucratic labyrinth, which only benefits workers at DHHL. There are thousands of acres available that could provide plenty of inexpensive, affordable homes for the Hawaiian people. With a low mortgage payment almost any job would provide a comfortable living.



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#3
only benefits workers at DHHL

Benefits HELCO and other utilities, too; some of that land is already subdivided with paved roads, grid power, and piped water.

Drive around behind Maku'u Market. Acres and acres and acres. Every once in a while, someone's house.
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#4
I've always wondered why all those lots behind Maku'u are empty. They have paved roads, county water, and regular electric and telcom service, but the majority seem to be unoccupied. The usual OHA/DHHL excuse for not settling Hawaiians on land is the infrastructure installation process, so why aren't people living on those lands?
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#5
why aren't people living on those lands?

As far as I know: if you don't die while on the waiting list for a lease, "all you have to do is" build a fully permitted home.

Later, it's a big mystery as to why the Hawaiians are so pissed off they would derail TMT.
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#6
MarkD, you bring up some good points, but you are missing the biggest one. These problems apply to all of us. Turning this into racial politics just divides us, which suits the real exploiters of our society just fine.

We all have to deal with corruption and late stage capitalism. Personal responsibility and community building.
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#7
DHHL uses Hawaii Homelands as a gravy train with kickbacks all aorund. Benefits all their friends except native Hawaiians.

One small example:

When I bought my property I had it surveyed. Cost me about $700. I saw a line item in a DHHL budget some years ago where they were paying some surveyor $65,000 to survey seven lots as I recall. Guess where that money was going.

Meanwhile those lots sit empty because DHHL expects the local Hawaiians to pass the same credit check any mortgage company might require. And that's not for fee simple ownership. Its for a 99 year lease.

So while some might focus on outside interests like the TMT taking advantage of the Hawaiian people the fact is the locals are really, really skilled at doing it themselves.
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#8
DHHL uses Hawaii Homelands as a gravy train with kickbacks all aorund.

Sounds like HART.
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#9
This only reinforces my gut feeling that the protesters should be "occupying" Hawaiian Homelands. I would be CHEERING. Not just me. Just about everyone in Hawaii would be cheering. The fact that nobody is doing so or even suggesting it is all part of the toxic "Don't question anything with even a thin veneer of Hawaiianness about it" malaise.
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#10
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Originally posted by Chunkster

I've always wondered why all those lots behind Maku'u are empty. They have paved roads, county water, and regular electric and telcom service, but the majority seem to be unoccupied. The usual OHA/DHHL excuse for not settling Hawaiians on land is the infrastructure installation process, so why aren't people living on those lands?


That is the billion dollar question.
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