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randomq: Thanks, I had forgotten that Argus does free delivery. I remember someone on here a few years back mentioning that. Definitely something to factor into the cost of this little project.
Tink: All input is appreciated. I have not considered 24"oc for the studs, growing up with 16 being standard any anything else considered taboo... but then again, I never thought I'd be living in a rental that was single wall construction like the old tobacco barns we had where I grew up either.
I just have to keep in mind that even though this is a shabin (shack/cabin), there is a very good chance that I will actually call it "home" at some point or another.
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If you go 24 inch spacing on studs, your top plate can be single, instead of double if roof rafters fall in line with the studs (24 inch center as well). Again, savings.
This sounds interesting, but brings two things to mind.
- With 24"oc, wouldn't I want to go with 2x6 studs over 2x4? I'm ignorant of that style framing but every thing I find on 24"oc framing talks about 2x6 studs.
- With rafters at 24", and studs at 24"... How would a 12" cantilever floor affect the load transfer?
I'm open to most things in this, I'd like to understand the "what fors" and "how tos" of it though.
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every thing I find on 24"oc framing talks about 2x6 studs
Yes; that's a current trend in construction, it creates a stronger building with less lumber, and leaves more room for insulation.
I've also seen 4x4 on 48" centers with a continuous 4x6 top plate, sheathed with 1.125" plywood.
How would a 12" cantilever floor affect the load transfer?
It probably wouldn't.
See also:
https://www.amazon.com/Low-Cost-Pole-Bui...882661701/
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While the 24"oc is a very interesting concept, I believe I'll be sticking with the 16"oc that I have been accustomed to, purely out of familiarity. Thanks for the information on that though.
I guess I'm getting down to what I am going to change and what the final product will be though, but I do have a few specific questions.
* Are treated rafters necessary around here due to termites? Or would keeping the exposed areas outside the building painted be fine?
* It looks like treated 4x8x12 lumber would make for fine girder/beams? It's be 6 total, and have them joined directly over the center post.
* I'll be sticking with treated 2x8x8 joist spans, joined over a beam for 16'. With blocking which might be overkill but I'd like a solid floor. 3/4" or better flooring on top of that. This sounds alright?
* Since the rafters don't have too major dead load on them, 2x8x20 spanned 16' (leaving roughly 2ft overhangs) with simpson ties and no birdmouth cuts should do just fine up there?
And of course I'll be using other metal tie-ins.
If all this holds true, I shouldn't be breaking the bank at all on this little build and can afford some comfort upgrades on it.
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That 16" on center will be good for snow load. Just in case of meteor caused nuclear winter. Of course that is sarcasm, you can make your entire roof of fibreglass or filon, if you can stand that much sun. Weight is not a consideration.
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Weight is not a consideration.
Are you hinting that there is something I am (most likely) overlooking?
I haven't really looked into the code or why it would require what it does, I was just basing everything on stuff I have seen that is up and functional around here on other properties.
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If you build a 10' by 12' you can put up anything you want or 2 10'by 12' structures next to each other without permits. If you connect the two with a deck less than 18" high you won't need a permit for that either, regardless of size. I have seen plenty of construction here on 48" on center. purlins on 36".
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Thanks leilaniguy, always appreciate any information given.
I actually know some bee keepers n the area that did something similar to what you are saying. They basically have a deck with 4 small 10'x10' structures at individual corners. It's actually quite nice, though I do not know if they did it due to permitting issues.
To be clear, I do not plan on permitting my little shabin.
I understand the risks, and know how some people feel strongly one way or another... hopefully I can avoid that information taking over this thread.
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there is little risk, and you can connect the two with a tent/tarpaulin without permit also.
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With any roof you decide on - make sure to think of possible high winds and what that could do. Even though a direct hit from a hurricane may be slim, Iselle should be kept in everyone's mind. You wouldn't want to be in your cabin and watch the roof lift off into space.
