Pacific Tsunami Warning Center to Close?

[Eric1600]

By your logic there wouldn't be a HNL office to start with. Priceless....

[terracore]

Alaska has more coastline than all the other 49 states combined. A large earthquake there wouldn't just effect the coasts of Alaska, it would effect Oregon, Washington, and California as well. And possibly even Hawaii. While I'm not advocating closing the Pacific tsunami warning system, if its an either/or proposition, I can see the merits on keeping the Alaska one open. Alaska also has 5 active volcanoes, 50 active since 1760, and is home to the highest tsunami recorded in modern times, the 1958 Lituya Bay mega-tsunami at 1,722 feet. That's high enough to take out HPP, Orchidland, Hawaiian Acres, Moutainview, and more. (I understand that landslide tsunamis transfer energy differently than tectonic uplifts but you catch the drift).

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Alaska has more coastline than all the other 49 states combined.

And along 97% of that coastline lives almost no one, except the moose who are hundreds of miles from any warning sirens. The Lituya Bay wave was in an enclosed area affecting an isolated hillside. By the time the hillside collapsed, and generated the wave, it would have been too late to evacuate even if sirens sounded.

[Midnight Rambler]

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Originally posted by leilanidude

So the real scientists apparently decided which location was most suitable, despite the cries from the Punaweb wannabe scientists in a failed attempt to blame Trump? priceless... Nice job, Obie.

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No, the real scientists decided that both are necessary, and Trump decided that science is anti-American.

[EightFingers]

Can the funding come from the state of Hawaii?

[terracore]

"And along 97% of that coastline lives almost no one, except the moose who are hundreds of miles from any..."

That coastline continues past Alaska and ends at the southern tip of South America. Tsunamis travel thousands of miles.

[SBH]

We could be needing that Pacific Tsunami Warning Center very soon.

http://www.businessinsider.com/antarctic...off-2017-6

[leilanidude]

Pacific Tsunami Warning Center
91-270 Fort Weaver Rd, Ewa Beach, HI 96706
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That is the address for the building. Appears they are at less than 30 feet elevation and only 1100 feet from the ocean....I guess they would have excellent first-hand knowledge of a tsunami's affect.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Appears they are at less than 30 feet elevation and only 1100 feet from the ocean....I guess they would have excellent first-hand knowledge of a tsunami's affect.

Their location is adjacent to Pearl Harbor, Hickam Air Force Base, Honolulu International Airport, Kalaeloa Airport, James Campbell High School, Ewa Beach... all at roughly the same elevation (or lower).

Not to mention right down the road from Waipahu, Pearl City, Aloha Stadium... and hundreds of thousands of residents, who now receive first hand knowledge and warnings from people who immediately understand how a tsunami will affect the surrounding area.

[Eric1600]

Here's the first bit from the article that was posted with some emphasis for quicker reading. Note that "experts" means scientists in this field of study.

President Trump's proposed budget cuts to tsunami warning systems would put thousands of lives at risk, Hawaii tsunami experts say.

Officials at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said the cuts would impact the timeliness and accuracy of tsunami warnings.

The cuts could also force the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center on Oahu to shut down.

The Trump Administration says it wants to consolidate the nation's two tsunami warning centers -- the other in Palmer, Alaska -- to save taxpayer money and eliminate duplication.

But experts say that's just a bad idea.

"If any center has a problem, you have a hot back up. They can step in and perform the duties of the other center," said tsunami expert Gerard Fryer [Ph.D Geophysicist].

Frye, who recently retired from the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, said both centers have just enough employees to perform day to day operations.

The proposal could mean a 60 percent cut in staff.

Fortunately Congress has been ignoring most of Trump's budget ideas.