Inbound missle from N. Korea alert.

[TomK]

LOL.

[PaulW]

Whenever anything happens these days (Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, Missile alert) the knee-jerk reaction from the usual bunch of kooks is "they're lying!".

It used to be amusing, now it's just tiresome. As if some guy who writes some blog has inside information about a second false alarm that nobody else knows anything about, including us here who actually live in Hawaii.

There, did that really need spelling out?

[Durian Fiend]

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Originally posted by leilanidude

The only real reason why Hawaii insisted upon this missile alert system to begin with was to try and make Trump look bad.

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Improbable. When it comes to making Trump look bad, nothing compares to his own juvenile actions.

But I'm in favor of scrapping the missile alert. Tsunamis? Yes. Other natural disasters? Sure. The only chance of a missile attack on Hawaii would be in the event of yet another error on the part of another country, and the odds of actually striking the state would be very small. No benefit in having a missile alert at this time.

[Durian Fiend]

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Originally posted by Mangosteen

Would be interesting to know the total cost of this incident.

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[?]Impossible to quantify. On an interest level of 1-100, I'd give it a minus 5.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Whenever anything happens these days ... the knee-jerk reaction from the usual bunch of kooks is "they're lying!".

Yes.
Look at the difference:

Hawaii Emergency sent out a prepared statement by mistake. The message they sent was unintentional, not meant to mislead anyone. They admitted it was a mistake. The reaction? Citizens demand a full, verified account, second by second as to what occurred. Total and complete details. And heads should roll.

Some Guy with a website claims someone, behind the scenes, believed there was an actual missile threat. Does Some Guy name the possible source for this information, or an agency that might have detected a threat? Does he in any way suggest who might be responsible? Nope, he simple makes a broad statement with no proof or reasonable explanation about how he reached his conspiracy theory. He says we are being told lies. What's his intention? Is it to reveal a truth for which he offers no details or information to back his statement? If not, isn't he then intentionally misleading the people who read his website? Does anyone ask for a full and complete accounting from Some Guy? No. Instead, if someone suggests he should be held accountable for his message, it's suggested we're interfering with his right to free speech.

[VancouverIslander]

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Originally posted by Durian Fiend

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Originally posted by leilanidude

The only real reason why Hawaii insisted upon this missile alert system to begin with was to try and make Trump look bad.

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Improbable. When it comes to making Trump look bad, nothing compares to his own juvenile actions.

But I'm in favor of scrapping the missile alert. Tsunamis? Yes. Other natural disasters? Sure. The only chance of a missile attack on Hawaii would be in the event of yet another error on the part of another country, and the odds of actually striking the state would be very small. No benefit in having a missile alert at this time.

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The issue with scrapping a system based on one false alarm and the current probability is that it doesn't take into account future possibilities. Certain whacko leaders with nuclear programs may have better technology in the not so distant future.

I think the real problem is that there's not a ton you can do to protect yourself if you are in a higher value target like Honolulu. Puna is a very low probability target. Even Bradshaw airbase is likely a tertiary target at best so the good news for us is that even in the event of a nuclear strike it is unlikely to have a serious impact on the district.

Me ka ha`aha`a,
Mike

[kalakoa]

Some hilarious irony to be had:

INBOUND message goes out via cellphone alert system. A few minutes later, they follow-up with Twitter and Facebook posts letting everyone know there was a mistake.

I don't follow Twitter and I don't have a Facebook account.

Maybe they discuss it on the news ... but I don't have a radio or television.

Nor can I hear the sirens, even when they are working.

Now ... did "the authorities" do everything they could to notify everyone?

[MarkD]

I thought it might have taken a while to get a replacement for the TMT debate, with its heated exchanges. I guess not.

Anyone "got a problem" here?

[Durian Fiend]

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Originally posted by VancouverIslander

[quote] Certain whacko leaders with nuclear programs may have better technology in the not so distant future...

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Dear Hawaiians,

Unfortunately, the missile you were planning to receive was cancelled. We are very sorry for any inconvenience that this might cause.

We do our best to always deliver our bombings as scheduled. However sometimes things don’t go as planned.

Please let us know if you have any questions or concerns regarding this cancellation and we would be happy to assist you.

Sincerely,

Kim Jong-Un
Event Manager

[Carey]

We all need to take a look into HOW the "system" did NOT work!
Some of the sirens went off, others did not, a few radio & TV stations had a broadcast alert, others did not, some phone services & types had an alert, others did not, some got an emailed alert, others did not..
Some employers & institutions instituted the recommended "Shelter in place" procedures, other employers did not, INCLUDING Hilo Post Office, which sent their employee HOME!.
This was NOT a system that worked
This was, at best, a very hard drill, a least, more of a keystone cops routine of systems failures that lead up to a whole lotta mistakes that were made!
My only hope is that there is a comprehensive review of what & how these systems failed at different levels...