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Possible New Ag Restrictions For Roosters
#31
From Mrs. Mimosa The hens give us large brown eggs with deep orange yolks with way less cholesterol. Much healthier than the month old irradiated chemical fed caged eggs from America shipped in in refrigerated containers .

Careful you're going to upset the folks who say there is absolutely no difference between organic eggs and/or farm fresh eggs (as you raised them) and commercial eggs. (I have relatives who gets eggs just like you do on their property. Much better than Safeway eggs.)
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#32
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Originally posted by MarkD
Careful you're going to upset the folks who say there is absolutely no difference between organic eggs and/or farm fresh eggs (as you raised them) and commercial eggs.


Hi! Maybe not upset, but curious.

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Originally posted by Mimosa
...The hens give us large brown eggs with deep orange yolks with way less cholesterol. Much healthier than the month old irradiated chemical fed caged eggs from America shipped in in refrigerated containers...


Just a couple things:
(1) Brown eggs and white eggs have the same nutritional quality, one is not healthier than the other. Typically brown eggs are layed by hens with brown feathers and reddish ear lobes while white eggs are layed by hens with white feathers and whitish ear lobes.

(2) I wonder why this poster thinks their eggs have "way less cholesterol". Is there some testing they have done to determine this - how did they reach this conclusion?

(3) I also wonder how they concluded they are "...healthier than...eggs from America...".

(4) Irradiation does not make foods radioactive, compromise nutritional quality, or noticeably change the taste, texture, or appearance of food. In fact, any changes made by irradiation are so minimal that it is not easy to tell if a food has been irradiated. Food irradiation (the application of ionizing radiation to food) is a technology that improves the safety and extends the shelf life of foods by reducing or eliminating microorganisms and insects. <https://www.fda.gov/food/resourcesforyou/consumers/ucm261680.htm>

(5) All chickens eat chemicals, chemicals are in grain fed to chickens as well as in insects they may eat in the wild. Chemicals aren't scary - we are all made up of chemicals and eat/drink them everyday. Some chemicals can be toxic - toxicity is scary. Chickens aren't fed toxic chemicals, unless you consider antibiotics toxic (which they are, but only to the bacteria - not chickens or humans).

(6) Refrigeration does not reduce the nutritional quality of eggs.
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#33
6) Refrigeration does not reduce the nutritional quality of eggs.

Refrigeration, as a process, doesn't reduce nutritional quality, it does however allow a product to last longer, and over time vitamins (especially) and minerals (to some extent) will degrade. So a one or two day old food product will in general have significantly higher nutritional value than the same product that is weeks or a month old.

Except Spam.

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#34
Refrigeration, as a process, doesn't reduce nutritional quality

But the factory farming techniques might...

Bigger issue: refrigeration and transportation keeping us all dependent on a complicated logistics network over which we have zero control.
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#35
HOTPE, can you share any sources you have for this idea? Everything I find seems to indicate air, heat and light cause nutrients to decay faster while refrigeration delays the decay. This seems to be in stark contrast to your assertion. Curious why you believe this, thanks.
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#36
"Rainyjim - Chemicals aren't scary - we are all made up of chemicals and eat/drink them everyday. Some chemicals can be toxic - toxicity is scary. Chickens aren't fed toxic chemicals, unless you consider antibiotics toxic (which they are, but only to the bacteria - not chickens or humans)."

I don't think I've ever wished for a Like button on this forum more than I did when I read this.
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#37
I'm curious why Mrs. Mimosa would breed Barred Rocks with gamecocks ?

"As a general rule for every 10 to 12 hens a Show Bird - Game Bird - Rooster - will service those hens daily ."

and then go on to tell about how many dozens of eggs they get a week.
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#38
air, heat and light cause nutrients to decay faster

Yes, that's true.
So for instance, fresh spinach refrigerated for one week will have more vitamins than spinach a week old that is not refrigerated.

In Mrs Mimosa's case, if her eggs are a couple of days old, they would be nutritionally better than month old refrigerated mainland eggs. Refrigeration slows the degradation process, but doesn't stop it.

If you search Google for "fresh food vitamin loss" you'll find numerous sources with charts. One surprise I found is that for certain vitamins and minerals, some canned food products have a higher nutritional value than fresh, because the canned product was processed a day or two after harvest. By the time we purchase the fresh version of the same food, it could be many weeks old.

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#39
If persons dislike roosters running amuck - get a chicken trap at Dels and soon no more grumbling.
Mrs.Mimosa


Much easier said than done Mrs Mimosa. Neighbors only caught 1 rooster and 1 hen in several days, using a canine trap from the Humane Society, nothing since. (Supposedly roosters won't bow their heads down to get into a feline cage even when there's something tempting to eat.) So the grumbling goes on.

How might a chicken trap and a canine trap differ? Does Del rent out chicken traps?
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#40
When we want to catch chickens we get a big wire crate dog kennel (the type that both the front and the side open), open the side, and we pour a little chicken food in there a few times a day and feed the chickens. At first just the domesticated ones go in there but after they see that nothing bad is happening the wild ones eventually go in there to. After several days so many chickens will go in there that no more will fit. That's when you close the door for the first time and trap them.

I've never had our egg's cholesterol checked, but according to what I've researched, free-ranging hens produce eggs with higher cholesterol than factory-produced eggs, however they are higher in the "good" cholesterol and lower in the "bad" cholesterol. Most chicken feed is purposely vegetarian to try to keep the cholesterol down. Free ranging hens are omnivores and will eat as many bugs, worms, centipedes, roaches, grubs, coquis, etc they can get their beaks on.

I can't remember the last time I had a store egg, but the yolk is always a sickly yellow color. Egg yolks are supposed to be orange.
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