HPP Biz

[msky]

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Originally posted by mermaid53

For those that want the truth of whether a Corporate Policy exists or not.... HPP ofc personnel have amnesia or are purposely misleading members who are requesting a copy, and have been told it doesn't exist:

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The last copy of the Corporate Policies I saw were unsigned and so not considered valid.....I did eventually find the original Policies and they were in a folder in the small file cabinet by my desk. I don't know if they are still there....or in another cabinet in the back office or maybe a copy in the locked blue fireproof box in the back office. The unsigned copy would give you a good idea of what they were all about. If I recall correctly, there was a committee working on a revision and there was a binder with the committee notes and recommendations.

MORGAN
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Go to page 3, see Corporate Policy discussion in the board minutes. (Look at the roll of board reps to see who was on the board at the time.) Can't deny they didn't know of it's existence. Larzalere was on the board and had just resigned the previous month. The board obviously had been working on the policy prior to May 2015. There's been some recent discussion over the corporate policy on FB HPP Next Door.

http://www.hppoa.net/newsite/wp-content/...INUTES.pdf

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[TomK]

msky - that doesn't help.

[caveat emptor]

Thanks msky, that was helpful. As I have stated in previous posts, we understand that the office was basically ransacked by a group of vandals immediately following the illegal firing of the 3 employees in 2014, which resulted in the loss from theft by those barbarians of much of the Association's documents. So I would not be surprised to learn that any Corp. Policies signed or not, went missing.
And it should not be too difficult to imagine, because of the collection of Stooges that we have had come and go among the office personnel and directors since July 2014, that nothing positive could ever acheived in the form of Policies.

Least any one not know, and since Tomk recommends people be informed, msky was an eye witness to the mayhem created by the vandals and their leader Jo Maynard and only some months later she herself became another victim on Maynard's long list of victims.

[mermaid53]

HPP Corporate Policy approved unanimously on 19 Aug 2003. There were amendments 1 Feb 2011 and 20 May 2015. (per 20 May 2015 Board minutes p.3) Since 2015, board members haven't been receiving all policies in the Board of Director folder they each receive at the start of their term. The Corporate policy is one of them.

The Corporate Policy contains the following summarized information:

P 1 General Policies (i.e. non endorsement of political candidates or religious denominations; no sales or storage of alcoholic beverages on association property; copies of the bylaws and corporate policies to be available at the HPP ofc for a fee; directives on how to handle disruptive person/s at meetings; conflict of interest policy etc.

P 2-4 Activity Center Policies (i.e. Seniors of Paradise have use of the main room and kitchen free of charge and get storage privileges of equipment and supplies; rental and deposit requirements and rates; and kitchen rental info etc.

P 4 Land Use Policies (i.e. No permanent signs erected on right of ways; entire roadway right of way must remain clear of personal property, trees, plantings and permanent structures (rock walls etc); driveway access for lots afronting both primary and secondary roads must be on the secondary road unless there is no alternative; livestock info; Federal, State and County codes should be observed concerning the ownership and use of certain animals, etc.

P 5-8 HPPOA Purchases and Contracts (i.e. extensive directives on how HPP deals w/outsourcing work contracts and vendors; Policy, Scope, Standard of Conduct, Procedure (Approval of Purchases and Contracts..i.e. officer signatures; purchases and contracts having a value of $10,000 or more shall require the approval of the Board of Directors, Competitive Proposal Requirements, General Requirements and Applicability of Federal Requirements, etc.

I posted this on 1 Feb 2018 17:42:20:
"HPP Corporate Policy General Policies P 1

7. As stated in Article VIII, Sec 13 of the bylaws, no member of the board shall vote at any board meeting on any issue in which such member has a conflict of interest.

8. Relationships that suggest a conflict of interest shall be avoided. No board member shall be employed by the Association for any reason. No family member of a Director shall be employed for any reason."

A bylaw following board would rescind their illegal motion to appoint CCrelly on the board due to his conflict of interest. His wife was hired 2 wks prior to his illegal appointment. A second conflict of interest is at hand as she was hired under a null and void document signed by former board president CCrelly (her husband) giving authority to the GM to hire/fire w/out board approval. To compound the situation, the GM did not advertise the opening so she didn't go through the proper hiring process required...don't know if she has qualifications for the position. AND No board is to turn over their fiduciary duties to an employee. CCrelly did.

If CCrelly has no personal agendas, he should step aside to make it easier for everyone to resolve this serious board violation. If he won't, it makes evident he has a personal agenda. Here's an opportunity for him to take the high road..please pay attention to his actions. Not taking the high road will compound any HPP biz he's involved in as his votes are automatically null and void.

[TomK]

"Not taking the high road will compound any HPP biz he's involved in as his votes are automatically null and void."

Oh well, I tried.

[oink]

Being the owner of 2 HPP lots I find this all very depressing.

Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.

[mermaid53]

I'm trying Tom....

Taking the high road....Crelly should step down/aside from being on the board. He is illegally seated on the board due to his conflict of interest w/his wife's HPP employment. He's not ignorant of this fact, nor is she.

HPP Corporate Policy General Policies P 1

8. Relationships that suggest a conflict of interest shall be avoided. No board member shall be employed by the Association for any reason. No family member of a Director shall be employed for any reason."

HPP Bylaws Article V Sec 14 Conflict of Interest "A conflict of interest exists when any director, officer, member of a committee or employee of HPPOA, has a direct or indirect financial interest in any matter involving the Association."

There is a direct financial gain here through Crelly's HPP employment.

Therefore, Crelly's application for the board vacancy should've been disqualified from the word GO. It would make things easier for all involved if he'd step aside. He doesn't even have to "resign" in the formal sense, as it was an illegal board motion that got him appointed = NULL AND VOID = Not legally seated. See Robert's Rules of Order quoted below that the board is supposed to follow per our bylaws which I also quoted.

Let's start here: HPP Bylaws, Article VIII Board of Directors Sec 9 Meetings of the Board (a) Parliamentary Authority. Regular and special meetings and executive sessions shall be conducted in accordance with, and the order of business determined by, Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, version to be determined by the sitting board annually."

The board has been using the 11th edition.

Per Robert's Rules:

#39 P 343 "Improper Motions. Motions that conflict with the corporate charter, constitution, or bylaws of a society, or with procedural rules prescribed by national, state, or local laws, are out of order, and if any motion of this kind is adopted, it is null and void. Likewise, motions are out of order if they conflict with a motion that has been adopted by the society and has been neither rescinded, nor reconsidered and rejected after adoption.Such conflicting motions, if adopted, are null and void unless adopted by the vote required to rescind or amend the motion previously adopted."

Therefore to correct the serious board violation, the board has to rescind their illegal motion to appoint Crelly to Dist 3 seat. No majority board vote required to rescind an illegal motion. They need to only get it on record at a board meeting.

There was another member who applied for the vacancy who would rightfully have the Dist 3 seat.

2nd issue of conflict of interest: While former president, CCrelly signed a document giving absolute authority to the GM to hire/fire, sign contracts, w/out board involvement/approval. This document being adverse to our bylaws, as stated in Robert's Rules quoted above, is therefore NULL AND VOID. The GM used this illegal authority signed by CCrelly, to hire Crelly's wife, which should also make her hiring NULL AND VOID.

Craig Crelly, step aside for the best interest of HPP and all it's members. Not doing so speaks of personal agenda. And does that personal agenda have to do with the membership demand for a forensic analysis?

[kalakoa]

Not to beat the greasy spot that used to be a dead horse, but: I can quote chapter and verse from regulations too -- without meaningful enforcement, it's just talking and more talking.

[mermaid53]

kalakoa, you have given sound assessments and offered options to our HPP issues and I appreciate that. Please don't discount or underestimate those with the warrior spirit fighting for what's right and true.......

and complacency is our worst enemy, hence the state we're in right now.

There is definitely a degree of seriousness to it and I hope you pay attention to what's going on, speak up, and join in and/or support those in the trenches. Please stop your silence. Write your rep, please include the whole board in your email to make sure it goes on record w/the entire board.

If you're in Dist 3, protest the seating of Craig Crelly who was illegally appointed to your district.

[kalakoa]

If you're in Dist 3, protest the seating of Craig Crelly who was illegally appointed to your district.

I live in the County, and I protest the creation of these illegal subdivisions; all it's gotten me is a higher property tax bill.