Council to consider regulating vacation rentals

[Seeb]

In the other 49 states low income housing outside of cities are trailer parks. Or I guess they call them Tiny houses now.

[kalakoa]

I guess they call them Tiny houses now.

Tiny House legislation failed due to concerns that it would be "abused".

[Seeb]

quote:

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Originally posted by kalakoa

I guess they call them Tiny houses now.

Tiny House legislation failed due to concerns that it would be "abused".

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They would be perfect for work force housing over by waikaloa, there is water and sewer and big open. When the person retires they can tow it to their own lot somewhere

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

it would be "abused".

Because real estate taxes collected by the county are calculated by the square foot?

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[kalakoa]

Because real estate taxes collected by the county are calculated by the square foot?

I suggest that the full tax rate on a tiny house might be more than the unimproved tax rate for an unpermitted shack.

Some of these "tiny" houses are $70K...

[tweez]

As others have mentioned:

TVRs are already regulated and highly taxed (GET + TAT + higher property taxes + state income tax). We have a TVR (and pay all the correct taxes on it) and, if this passes and we are not able to get the necessary permissions to continue, we won't rent it out long-term because we still want to be able to use it for vacations. It sounds like there are many other people who feel the same way so, what will happen:

The state and county will lose out on tax revenue, local people hired to manage and maintain these properties will lose work, east side shops, restaurants, and attractions/facilities will lose revenue because people won't have as many options to actually stay on the east side therefor fewer people will patronize them, houses will sit vacant for months out of the year, and it will do nothing to help any lack of affordable housing.

If folks are worried about the impact of vacation rentals on keeping "residential neighborhoods from being overrun with vacationers clogging streets with their vehicles and disrupting the quiet character of neighborhoods," they should also think about the opportunity that a bunch of vacant properties will provide for break-ins, squatters, etc. to take the vacationer's places.

[kalakoa]

The state and county will lose out on tax revenue

No problem, they can just increase taxes until the budget balances again.

[My 2 cents]

"residential neighborhoods from being overrun with vacationers clogging streets with their vehicles and disrupting the quiet character of neighborhoods,"

I don't get this one. How many cars does a vacationer or family of vacationers have? How many does a long term renter have? Probably more, and the likelihood of those cars being noisier is pretty high. Not to mention friends coming over, which most vacationers won't have. Vacationers won't have barking dogs or other animals. Or loud parties, junk in the yard, etc. This entire sentence is bs. I know many people who would trade one or more of their current neighbors for vacationers in a second.

[robguz]

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Originally posted by PaulW

I saw the story in the HTH today. Thanks robguz for exposing that fraud.

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You're welcome!

[leilanidude]

Vacationers don't have junk vehicles in their vacation rental, don't have barking dogs, roosters, don't pile trash outside for months...