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They're going to have to figure out how to control this.
Hiking trails? For some particularly fragile areas, if you want access, why not walk there?
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Wheelchair/handicap/disabled access?
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I've got nothing to whine about here. Either a toll gate or closing the road is just fine by me. Growing pains and irresponsible vehicle use have taken status quo off the table.
Handicapped access is not available for many beach areas, and this one is not optimal for such a provision.
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A single road going to Green Sands would work, fenced on both sides and a toll gate for maybe $5 a vehicle, with the gate accepting only credit/debit cards. No person needed.
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Originally posted by Durian Fiend
I've got nothing to whine about here. Either a toll gate or closing the road is just fine by me. Growing pains and irresponsible vehicle use have taken status quo off the table.
Handicapped access is not available for many beach areas, and this one is not optimal for such a provision.
Handicap accsess is required by law, any anything built after ADA must have it. And a lot of older things must be retrofitted
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Handicap accsess is required by law, any anything built after ADA must have it. And a lot of older things must be retrofitted
And a large number of things that might have been built will never be, especially by the ocean. The Hilo Bayfront Trails Project, with its paved walkway mauka of Bayfront Highway, was originally discussed as having a spur run out to the berm where the lone tree stands.
But such a spur would have to be ADA compliant. Meaning a big paved walkway. It is pretty much illegal anymore to build a simple footpath. It discriminates against wheelchairs.
A paved walkway by the ocean = a large footprint. Much harder to get shoreline permitting. A simple footpath can easily be restored after high surf washes over it. Paved walkways get destroyed.
Statewide it is exceedingly difficult make any shoreline improvements. There's some 4-5 reasons for this; ADA is just one of them.
Just something to ponder next time you go to Richardson's Beach Park and observe how many people, especially tourists, stub their toes on the sharp rocks entering the water at the tiny 25-foot wide beach (especially at high tide). Think officials will ever remove these rocks for public benefit? Think again.
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Handicap accsess is required by law, any anything built after ADA must have it. And a lot of older things must be retrofitted
Well then, my guess is that no trail will be built to the beach. Toilets and a short lookout point from the parking lot will be handicap friendly.
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Handicap accsess is required by law
What about the parking lot and trail to Shipman Beach at the end of Beach Road? That was constructed recently (the parking lot and trail access signage). I don't think you can get a wheelchair over the pahoehoe and through the mud.
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I think that's all private land, no? ADA applies to public spaces.
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I think that's all private land, no? ADA applies to public spaces.
What about "privately-owned but open to the public"?
