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Time to begin discussing Puna lava viewing site
#81
"officials say lava feeding into the ocean has created more than 9 square miles"

Sorry to be derisive here: "Hey, we got 9 new miles of hard, black rough rock--wanna fly over and look at it? It's real exciting to walk on."

(OK, there will be some interest, but compared to what we have now? Sorry, I'm not getting it.)
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#82
"Hey, we got 9 new miles of hard, black rough rock--

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#83
Hawaii Public Radio had a segment today, & it was pretty apparent that Will Okabe was very ..mmm... reserved in jumping onto the public viewing bandwagon...

So many of the official pushbacks could be handled by utilizing our tourist transportation systems, much like the HoppaOn, HoppaOff system (these buses are normally high demand during boat days, not so much most late afternoon/evenings..), as a round robin viewing bus, with sliding scale fares to offset the costs, with trained safety/education leads & needed safety equipment onboard...

This is well within the county ability, the pick up could be at a larger parking lot either in Puna or Hilo, would be modeled much like the Kilauea Iki HVNP protocol, but instead of private cars, a public access tourist bus would transport people to a viewing area, and it would be flexible enough to adjust to the concerns of the county to potential flow changes...

At this point the ride could go to the Y intersection, stay for about 10-15 mins, & return with all passengers...(Having worked HVNP, that time is pretty much the attention span of many visitors, Kilauea Iki HVNP entrances were for 20min total... & would give many the opportunity to see this force of nature.. If they need a second shot, they can get back in line for another visit..)

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#84

bold be me

good idea Carey...

Great new parking lot at the "new" soccer field over by Suisan ... still not open, just overgrown and rusting away would be a good fit for a Hilo spot.
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#85
This is well within the county ability

"There's no money."
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#86
Carey's plan sounds good. Ideally local people, upon showing ID, could drive their own vehicles to the site.

But if that is deemed onerous we locals can get on the bus like every one else. Whatever it takes to get this thing off the ground.

Comment: "There's no money."

Aren't there tour bus companies already poised to provide this service?

15 minutes seems a bit short. Maybe have different tour bus operators taking people for different times.

Minimum view time 15 minutes: Locals pay $6, tourists $20-$20. Long visits (1 hour views) could go $60-$75 for tourists. (Just some preliminary thoughts here.)
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#87
Aren't there tour bus companies already poised to provide this service?

Those companies are regulated by County and State...

Remember when "hoppa-on, hoppa-off" had to shut down for a few weeks while getting their permits in order? They were fully licensed by PUC, insured, etc, but they didn't have explicit permission to make the specific stops, so had to re-file...
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#88
There's been so much publicity. People will come out of curiosity when its over. We don't know what will be there to see. Like if the New tide pools will still be there in the end or a black sand beach Maybe even a new surf break created if we're lucky. The Tour companies are probably trying to figure out how they are going to work it. But we don't even know how long this will last. Months? Years? No one knows. IF there is such a thing as a "stable" fissure that goes for years you can bet there will be a way to cash in on it.
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#89
we don't even know how long this will last

Yes, let's wait until it's over before we let people see it.
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#90
At this point the ride could go to the Y intersection, stay for about 10-15 mins, & return with all passengers

During the 1979 Pauahi eruption on the Chain of Craters Road, where there was no place to park cars and only one place near the eruption site that a vehicle could turn around, the national park was pretty quick to set up buses to transport people to view the eruption. The buses would pick up people at the top of the Chain of Craters Road, take them in and drop them off, turn around, and pick up folks that were pau, ready to leave. Nobody was given any time limit, and the buses ran continuously. The park used the Kilauea Iki parking lot, and the spillover parked along the road leading into the caldera. That way there was almost always the means to facilitate a rapid retreat if anytime were to happen, and meanwhile the public was afforded the opportunity to enjoy viewing it at their leisure.
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