2018 Hurricane Season

[mermaid53]

Obie, talk to your spouse and friends on the previous HPP boards for the last 3+ yrs on why they weren't proactive about the albizias after storn Iselle...everyone else tried to talk sense into them only to be ignored. At least the volunteer members got together to do what they could do to get emergency ready. The boards and current GM were in charge of handling the albizia situation.

[randomq]

Volunteer boards of subdivisions without CC&RS have no authority over private property. I think the most you can do is get the word out on how dangerous the trees can be in a storm, and how to kill them. Or sneak in to kill them illegally.

Government has the power to do something about this. Why is civil defense not proactive on these threats?

[punaticbychoice]

Because County and State are not pro-active about citizen needs.
Unless money. For the current system.[]

[kalakoa]

Why is civil defense not proactive on these threats?

Beyond their authority. Only the Governor has the power to order cutting of hazardous trees on private property.

[PrismaticMenehune]

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Originally posted by kalakoa

Why is civil defense not proactive on these threats?

Beyond their authority. Only the Governor has the power to order cutting of hazardous trees on private property.

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Actually that's no longer accurate.

HB0606 HD2 SD2 CD1 (CCR 31)

"Allows each county of this state through its employees or authorized agents to enter private property within the respective county to control or eradicate pests and invasive species."

http://lrbhawaii.org/reports/legrpts/lrb...ssed17.pdf

[kalakoa]

Allows each county of this state through its employees or authorized agents to enter private property...

Missed that.

County will have to fall back on the old "don't have money for that" excuse.

[mermaid53]

Volunteer boards of subdivisions without CC&RS have no authority over private property. I think the most you can do is get the word out on how dangerous the trees can be in a storm, and how to kill them. Or sneak in to kill them illegally.

That's correct but HPP has lots of albizias growing on association property. The association is responsible in maintaining these areas. It would've been proactive to kill the keikis that were popping up everywhere in the easements. Now they're several feet tall or more and there are a lot of them.

Getting educational information out regarding the dangers of albizias is key as you say and can be mailed out with the annual association mailings to lot owners. Perhaps coupled with identifying albizias on private property that could pose a threat to main thoroughfares and then communicating with those lot owners. There are many ways to address this if one is thinking proactively.

[Obie]

In Vacationland we just went around and killed the albezias.

You don't need a board to kill a tree.If you see albezias growing anywhere in your neighborhood just go and kill them.

It just doesn't make any sense to allow your absentee neighbor to allow a tree to grow that will eventually grow big enough to fall and crush your house and maybe kill you.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

allow your absentee neighbor to allow a tree to grow

There are still areas of HPP with 4,5, or 6 vacant lots next to each other - - and not directly adjacent to a home. Very few people will walk multiple lots down from their own property to kill trees. Yes, in the long run it's in their best interest, but so are a lot of other things they won't do either.

[eigoya]

WHen I first bought my Milstone (?) I was a crusader mentally targeting trees as I drove down Makuu- that ones big--one slice and a spray....but yes, regardless of what it looks like from the road, getting to most trees takes quite an effort even if you don't mind walking around the neighborhood with a hatchet.