Discussion of land swap ?

[Mimosa]

MaunaLoa Mac Nut - now Hawaiian Host is all Ship-Man land .Leased .Ag related as allowed by USDA rules.2K an acre paid to Ship-Man for the next 40+ years.Several 5 acre to 20 acre privately leased parcels for papaya and mac nut goes to Ship-Man.Considered pasture by the county.
Mrs.Mimosa

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

bashing the Shipmans on Punaweb is a popular local sport

Yes, but as an intermural activity, you might have noticed we're somewhat relaxed about the rules.

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[alaskyn66]

Got to love it. The largest landowner on the island is on welfare.

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[ElysianWort]

"I would love someone to provide some documentation for these supposed $2,000 per month per acre payments"



"Sounds like a wildly inaccurate rural legend to me."



I agree. Wont be the first time of inaccuracies posted by this individual.

And I don't care. Jump all over me if you like.

[Rob Tucker]

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Originally posted by Chunkster

I would love someone to provide some documentation for these supposed $2,000 per month per acre payments. Of course, bashing the Shipmans on Punaweb is a popular local sport, so I don't expect to see any proof. Sounds like a wildly inaccurate rural legend to me. And before you jump all over me, I do agree that the tax bill on much of the property in question is ridiculously low.

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Last time I looked at Shipman LTD's taxes, several years ago, they were paying $6,000/yr on 12,000 acres. I lightly mentioned this to Bill Walter (CEO of Shipman). Shortly after that a person could no longer easily look up someone taxes by name. The data went dark.

[leilanidude]

Shortly after that a person could no longer easily look up someone taxes by name.
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Easy to use the map feature on the county property tax site and click on the large parcels.

[Rob Tucker]

Well then, if it is of interest, look it up.

[AaronM]

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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge

bashing the Shipmans on Punaweb is a popular local sport

Yes, but as an intermural activity, you might have noticed we're somewhat relaxed about the rules.

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My vote for Retort of the Year!!

[kalakoa]

look it up

Picked one at random.

http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_display.php?county=hi_hawaii&KEY=160010150000

989 acres, about 1.5 miles of highway frontage. Assessed $1.85M, taxed $17342 = agout $1875/acre, taxed at about $17.50/acre/year.

Compare with random non-Shipman lot in Orchidland.

http://qpublic9.qpublic.net/hi_hawaii_display.php?county=hi_hawaii&KEY=160092300000

1.09 acres, 100' highway frontage, assessed $46800, taxed $437 (about 25x $17.50).

Who's subsizing whom?

[wax]

$2,000/acre/month for not planting sugar cane sounds incredible. Can you give me the source for that information, I would like to verify it before I pass it on.

As to owning land around Mauna Loa Macadamia, checked several parcels - 160010350000 - for instance and they are owned by Royal Hawaiian Orchards. Checked on that and that is not a Shipman company.