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I still don't understand what your issue is - please explain more.
No, I think the horse is dead already. Too much Roundup in his hay!!!!
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Yep, you done killed it ! Congratulations.
ETA: Pretty sure now that Open-d's sole intent is to dominate or kill any discussion that threatens or casts doubt on the great God of Progress. After all, Western Civilization must be preserved at all costs ! I've got news for ya Open-d: in the history of the planet, there has never been a civilization that didn't collapse. Ours will be no exception.
I'm out.
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Looks like a return to “normal” if this thread is any indication...
Cheers,
Kirt
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I'm out too, but first I want to alert all the anti-GMO, anti-Roundup, anti-progress people to a vast new threat:
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-45173968
Editing of wheat genes to help it adapt for climate change! Don't they realize that by tinkering with a single gene they have thereby turned the whole crop into the spawn of Satan? Please, you have to enlighten them before they save millions of lives. Don't think this abomination won't make its way to Hawaii eventually.
Happy picketing.
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Just wait until “someone” discloses what exactly those inert ingredients are that make up over 50% of roundup. Glyphosate is just the beginning my friends. I’ve been in agriculture for 14 years. I understand this argument more than most do. I am 100% ok with gmo. Without gmo and the continued research on how to grow crops better we die.
However.........those in the know stopped eating Cheerios years ago. The inert ingredients are not good and glyphosate is not good. These ingredients are stored in the plants and soils they are sprayed on by design. Making a plant resistant to death from glyphosate doesn’t negate the fact that it is still in the plant and soil in harmful amounts to humans.
Most of us in agriculture and who are regarded as responsible farmers agree roundup ready crops are a ticking time bomb and were a bad idea from the beginning. The original argument seemed so black and white and childish. Round up on plants that we will eventually consume bad— duh...... no brainer really. So we thought. Years later here we are and it sucks.
The word cancer comes up, great. Glyphosate causes organ failure as well. Of course just in animals, cough cough..... liver kidneys.... and still zero mention or recognition of the INERT ingredients, what they are, what the chemical make up of ingredients are ect ect ect..... 51% worth. We know surfactants are added but that’s all. Just the word surfactant. Most surfactants used in agriculture are not made for consumption.
Some of us understand seeds,seed production and the control of seeds or war on seeds. It became clear this gmo roundup ready bullsht was a power move. All about the Benjamin’s baby. When you understand the seed market, you will understand more about Monsanto. When you understand more about Monsanto, you will understand how roundup comes into OUR picture much further down the road. Think chess if you play.
Monsanto is so much more than roundup. Their insane level of “interest” with seeds for our food production slides right under the radar. Patents on seeds? Huh? Happy research if you choose to do so!
Educate yourselves on this subject. I’ve been reading far too many opinions and not enough facts. When facts are left out, emotions fill their place.
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Originally posted by jahson777
Cannabis/hemp make medicine, food, fiber/clothing. Cannabis seeds are one of the best plant based protein sources in nature. I don't see how someone who would like Roundup banned and cannabis growing legal have double standards.
Jahson - you might be surprised by this but I fully support cannabis being grown on the island and am fully aware of its health benefits when used medically. On the other hand, there are known dangers with its use which have been shown in several scientific papers. My point, and what I was trying to find out, was why some people here are so adamantly against glysophate which enables crops to be grown and avoid starvation, which is a benefit but growing and using marijuana which has known serious health issues if used incorrectly or even correctly by prescription, is not a problem.
I don't know enough about glysophate or pot, I'm just curious why different standards are used for both. You can even add alcohol to this. That's known to cause health problems, but should that be banned as well? It didn't work out well in the last century.
