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Wow,actually got a real call from the aquatic dept.Secratary of course. She had no clue as to whats going on,no date on even when bids goin out(still),much less whrn we will (or if) be ever able to use it. No surprise
Said I could call the director of aquatics mr Moriz 961 8311 ( please feel free to call him also), of course hes not in, its friday. I left a heated message. I hope you will join me.Im the noisy squeaky wheel eh? Lol ( no laughing matter) sic?
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Da pool saga part 2.
Our representative Eileen Ohara,has set a small fire under the parks and recreations
Admins feet I hope.
Her recent letter asking when ,where ,bid,no bid ? ,in respose to his leter to her,that
They finnaly have learned the art of pool cleaning??????
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Maurice,
Yes you did send a long email Friday but it doesn't answer the question. While it may interest some to know all the steps that need to be taken to clean the pool, all your email pasted below tells me is that it has taken P&R TWO MONTHS to figure out "how to clean the pool?"
The question asked is "when" will the pool be operative. You told me a month ago it would be a couple weeks, but you also said that about the District Park which is still closed. In this detailed explanation (scope of contract) regarding how the clean-up WILL BE conducted, there is no mention of time. Has this gone out to bid or have bids been accepted? When will the work start? How long do you anticipate the contractor will need to complete all of these activities?
The public isn't interested in knowing all you have just learned about how to clean a community sized pool. Further, community pools maintained by the private and nonprofit sectors throughout the area were cleaned up and reopened two months ago.
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Eileen
"We know that you all have been receiving inquiries about the st[atus of opening the Pahoa Pool. We want to get the pool opened as soon as possible, as it is the only community pool available in Pahoa, but we need to make sure that it is absolutely safe for the public and our lifeguards.
We are currently going through the bid process to remove the Volcanic Glass (Pele’s Hair) from the 900,000+ gallon community pool. To give you an idea of what it will take to clean the pool, Roxcie Waltjen (Director of P&R), asked me to send to you all a description of anticipated work (sorry it’s long, but figured best to include everything we need to do):
1. The first step in removal is to pressure wash the entire pool deck within the designated fenced in pool area. This is to include the building walls and any and all sitting, lounging or play toys or play areas within the scope of the pool environment. This wash down will help to ensure Volcanic glass will not be tracked into the water or will affect any of the patrons or pool technicians.
2. The second step is to remove all of the existing sand media in all four filters for the main pool and the one sand media filter for the Keiki pool. The sand is inundated with the Volcanic glass and, as the filters are backwashed, the sand is disturbed giving the glass the opportunity to pass through the sand and return back to the pool. Once the existing media is removed it should be replaced with Filter Ball Blue Sanz media. This type of media increases the filtration from 25 microns to 5 microns.
a. This is a special type of media used in food grade filtration and would be the first run to remove debris to the finest level possible for a Sand style filter. This will capture smaller particles and since the body of the Filter Ball Blue Sanz media consists of a woven polyester, it will greatly increase the ability to retain the sharp glass shards and they will not be able to separate themselves in the backwash scenario.
b. Once this media is installed, we can lower the pump RPM with the use of the external drive by approximately 50% and still attain the flow rate of the system at this time(1900 gpm). By slowing down the pump, we reduce the velocity of the water and allow the media to filter the water at a preferred slower rate. The filters need to be filled to an 80% capacity with the Sanz Media.
3. The third step would be to introduce a flocking agent into the water. By following the flocking procedure, this will allow the smaller particles in the water to coagulate and drop to the floor. These particles can then be vacuumed out with a portable deck based D.E. system. D.E. system filters have the ability to remove down to two-microns in size. This should also be done to the Keiki pool as well.
a. Two times for one week should be sufficient for the Keiki pool.
b. To ensure maximum effectiveness for the main pool, the procedure should be applied at least three times a week for a period of two weeks.
4. After the sand media has been changed and the flocking procedure has been followed, the Filter Ball Blue media should then be removed and replaced with brand new Filter Ball media to ensure all glass that has been vacuumed up and glass that has been captured by normal circulation can be completely removed from the pool environment.
5. Once the new media is in place in all filters, a water sample will then need to be sent to the appropriate lab for analysis to make sure all glass has been removed from the water. Depending on the outcome of the analysis the pool can then be reopened if found to be safe for the public and staff.
Approximate cost: $76,000"
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Approximate cost: $76,000
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When I called there office last week they said it would cost $125 K
Hmm, Real estimate ,after bids? Where is the other $40 k going?
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At least our state rep Ms Ohara cares about us here in Puna ,and I appreciate the fact that, only her and Cindy Evans have lifed a finger so far to help the cause of getting the pool done so far as I have been able to find out. I salute them.
Thank you also to those that emailed there reps. I have a small amount of hope.
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Just got a reply from Representative Cindy Evans
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I got the following update for your information. The bid process is being followed, and I it looks like the description of the work to be done took time.
FYI, once the bid is awarded, hopefully no one will submit a protest. After the wait period, there is a contract agreement to be executed. Please tell everyone I appreciate their patience. The process was created to ensure fairness and transparency
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Why is this being bid out? Can the P&R employees not change a filter or run a pool vacuum or power washer? $76K without even having to drain or manually clean the pool is outrageous!
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Randomq... this is more than just a pool vacuuming & power wash & from the folks I have talked to, may end up being more extensive work than was done in 2013....
All depends on what damage was done by running the equipment WITH all of that cinder, ash & Peles hair.....never a great idea to run the equipment with an evironmetnal hazard being dumped into the pool, but that was the decision made way-back when fissure 8 became a major source of debris in Pahoa in late-mid May.... too late to change all that!
I am fairly sure that it will be more expensive & take much longer than what the P&R public line is saying... just like the past work that has been done at the pool...
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I just got a reply from Representative Eileen Ohara, She is fully engaged to help us the get our pool back in order and is unhappy with the current situation.
Dan
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Dan,
First, thank you for your service! And not meant to sound trite...it's a major personal sacrifice to serve this country's military and I for one am grateful for your commitment.
Pls feel free to pass on the info. It bothers me that the administration is so SLOW to help Puna recover. They dragged their feet so long, and came up with the most absurd plan that asked for tons of money most of which was to help other areas of the island, that they lost the option to call for a special session at the State legislature. Our needs will not be met in regular session.
I am having difficulty continuing to pretend they're being effective. We cleaned up our community pool in Hawaiian Shores and are accommodating many Puna folks who need to swim for health reasons. This administrations is leaderless and ineffective.
Eileen
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