Hawaii Supremes rule in favor of TMT

[kalakoa]

https://www.hawaiitribune-herald.com/201...mts-favor/

The ruling is the last legal hurdle facing the project after the high court upheld the project's sublease with the University of Hawaii earlier this year.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

They've jumped over a labyrinth of hurdles.
They've allowed opponents every opportunity to voice concerns and objections.
Environmental impact statements have been passed, state and county laws have been followed.

Many protestors said they just wanted to make certain the TMT obeyed all the rules, and now, the legal provisions have been completed and satisfied. Every one. Should someone consider further interference with construction, they need to stop and think, am I following the letter of the law like I demanded of the TMT?

"The great mystery is that such a state may be one of utter happiness, as it provides opinions concerning things, but no knowledge of the things themselves.” - Marguerite Young

[Kahunascott]

You forgot the us supreme court, even if they won't hear it because the case has no merit, it will take the court another year to review it to say NO

[kalakoa]

http://bigislandnow.com/2018/10/30/supre...lding-tmt/

TMT must now submit construction plans to the DLNR Office of Conservation and Coastal Lands for review and approval.

With any luck, this, too, can be drawn out for another few years.

[Guest]

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Originally posted by kalakoa

http://bigislandnow.com/2018/10/30/supre...lding-tmt/

With any luck, this, too, can be drawn out for another few years.

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Yah, BAD Luck

Speaking Truth to Lies / Facts to Ignorance

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

From OHA today, on the TMT ruling. If OHA trustees aren’t getting sued, they have to sue somebody else:

The Supreme Court’s ruling today demonstrates an urgent need for the state to create mechanisms to ensure that constitutionally protected traditional and customary practices and cultural resources are not sacrificed or abridged.
In November 2017, OHA sued to hold the state and UH accountable for its longstanding and well- documented mismanagement of Maunakea. For years, OHA held good faith discussions with the state to stop the state’s failed stewardship. Despite OHA’s best efforts, these discussions broke down several weeks ago. As a result, OHA is moving forward with its lawsuit.
After 50 years of empty promises to the mauna and our community, the state needs to be held accountable. Maunakea deserves better.

[kalakoa]

ensure that constitutionally protected traditional and customary practices and cultural resources are not sacrificed or abridged

Per BigIslandNow:

The decision also requires the state to follow the Maunakea Comprehensive Management Plan which includes attention to cultural protocols and training.

Not seeing a problem here? Then again, I'm not Hawaiian (am I allowed to use that word? should it be capitalized?)

[TomK]

"Not seeing a problem here? Then again, I'm not Hawaiian (am I allowed to use that word? should it be capitalized?)"

The TMT has followed all the rules in the comprehensive plan. I don't know what problem you are referring to. It might be easier if you just said what the problem is and not expect others to use their psychic powers to understand your point.

[TomK]

quote:

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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge

From OHA today, on the TMT ruling. If OHA trustees aren’t getting sued, they have to sue somebody else:

The Supreme Court’s ruling today demonstrates an urgent need for the state to create mechanisms to ensure that constitutionally protected traditional and customary practices and cultural resources are not sacrificed or abridged.
In November 2017, OHA sued to hold the state and UH accountable for its longstanding and well- documented mismanagement of Maunakea. For years, OHA held good faith discussions with the state to stop the state’s failed stewardship. Despite OHA’s best efforts, these discussions broke down several weeks ago. As a result, OHA is moving forward with its lawsuit.
After 50 years of empty promises to the mauna and our community, the state needs to be held accountable. Maunakea deserves better.

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I've had to clean up the summit ridge area in the past. Not from the mess that astronomers leave behind but mostly from those on tours and locals visiting the summit area - tourists rarely bring up a six-pack of Bud. I've also had to rescue locals who fell ill at the summit.

Then again, I've also had to clean-up cigarette butts that a current leader of the protesters left all over the summit area while they were employed as a telescope operator.

The hypocrisy is stunning.

[randomq]

To be fair, a six-pack of bud *is* a traditional and customary cultural resource for the Big Island.

With all the hearings and hurdles passed, let's hope this project doesn't die in DLNR red tape now.