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Hawaii could be the first state to ban cigarettes
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"Hawaii could be the first state in the U.S. to ban the sale of cigarettes, if a current proposal becomes law.

Adults younger than age 30 could be legally prohibited from buying cigarettes in less than a year's time -- and all cigarette sales would be banned in Hawaii in five years -- under a bill by State Representative Richard Creagan. The bill was co-signed by Representatives John Mizuno, also a Democrat, and Cynthia Thielen, a Republican.

"We're taxing them, that did decrease use somewhat, but we still have 140,000 people in our state that smoke cigarettes. You don't see them as much anymore, because we kind of made them hide. But, they're going to die, half of them are going to die if they keep smoking, and we can prevent that."

Creagan dismisses the argument that his proposal would take away a smoker's civil liberty, saying it is something the tobacco industry has long cited. KHON2 was unable to reach the American Civil Liberties Union for comment on this story.

Creagan says smokers are horribly addicted and need freedom from enslavement.

Smokers and non-smokers have mixed feelings.

Kenny Tsai says, "I don't think it's a good idea. It's taking away our rights to choose. That's what I think."

Frank Raken says, "Even tho like it's 21, you have to be 21, there is still kind of places that you can actually get cigarettes or, you know, how they ask someone to buy for them. It's gonna be a good idea."

Vickson Victor enjoys smoking and says, "It's my right. It's my life. So, it's my choice."

State Representative Richard Creagan is a retired emergency room physician, who believes that from his Capitol office, he can save more lives.

In addition to smokers' addiction, Creagan says the state also is addicted -- to 110-million dollars in annual, cigarette-tax revenue. While Creagan would prefer the ban be immediate and total, he realizes beneficiaries of those tax dollars, the UH Cancer Research Center and John A. Burns School of Medicine, can't go cold-turkey. That is why the ban would be unrolled in phases.

Creagan believes, if Hawaii becomes the first cigarette-free destination, visitors will flock here.

"Our beaches will be free of cigarette butts, our parks, all of that. Kids won't be exposed. You won't have to worry about your baby or your dog chewing on a cigarette butt, I mean, we'll be the first state to be cigarette-free and i think that's really cool."

Hawaii was first to raise the legal smoking age to 21 and with the proposed ban, he believes the state should continue to be a beacon for the rest of the nation."

eta: https://www.khon2.com/news/local-news/ba...1744730543
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Oh boy..

I wonder how much is an oz of tobacco will be.
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#3
Yet recreational pakalolo is on the ballot.
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"I don't think it's a good idea. It's taking away our rights to choose."

From my observations, it's more often people who appear as if they may have difficultly making ends meet who are buying cigarettes at the checkout counter, they often struggle for dollar bills in multiple pockets on their person so they can pay the cashier. If it was also their choice to pay for their own emergency room medical emergencies, emphysema, heart attacks, cancer, I'd be OK with them smoking like a coal powered chemical plant.

But it's often not. Cigarette related health issues cost taxpayers billions of dollars.

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If money is the real issue then increase the cigarette tax to make the cost of smoking revenue neutral.

The route they are trying to take won't stop smoking, it will just funnel the revenue to organized crime, and the health cost of smoking will still exist with the tax revenue it created now a negative cash flow because we'll have new law enforcement costs.

It's almost like.... we tried this once before.

I despise smoking but freedom is priceless.
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#6
Addictions are powerful, and an outright ban would probably produce an underground trade with organized crime cashing in like terracore said. The fireworks ban comes to mind as an example of how ineffective such policies are, never mind alcohol prohibition and the "war on drugs."
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#7
This would just encourage more vaping and other forms of nicotine. I see a few people still smoking cigarettes but vaping is everywhere. I can see it really taking off if we pass laws like this.
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Don't forget the visitors will flock here fantasy ...

If your BB is chewing on a cigarette and you don't notice you have bigger problems.

Let 'em kill themselves .. please just don't litter 20X a day.

And make sure you "remind" the litterer that they just dropped something.
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They should allow vaping (almost) everywhere, the cigarette smokers will die off soon enough.
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I disagree strongly with that. In fact, I oppose the public discharge of tobacco "effluent" of any form, solid (butts), liquid (spit) or gas (smoke/vape). However, I don't think "bans" are the answer as the degradation of rights outpaces the good they do. Smoke and vape are both laced with toxic nicotine, and smoke carries the additional bonus of a foul, disgusting stench.

Tax them just short of the point that creates an underground, i.e. illegal, black market, and use the $$$ to cure cancer in children and others (except smokers).


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