Posts: 1,131
Threads: 39
Joined: Oct 2016
They are making this as hard and as expensive as possible!
All things considered, turning a residence into commercial enterprises is a bit of a stretch as it is. Yeah, it should be your 'right,' sure, but the fact is most people didn't buy a home so as to live next to a hotel. Maybe county should designate certain neighborhoods as VR possible, and exclude others entirely. If they did this I wonder how many community associations would vote to be included, and how many would vote to be excluded?
Isn't it the same as with chickens? Some communities have covenants against, and others for. I hate the sound of roosters.. and don't imagine, for some, the sound of strangers coming and going are any more pleasing.
Posts: 119
Threads: 46
Joined: Aug 2009
HotinHawaii
I don't think we have to use registered mail. From the draft ruling:
Page 7 (5) Proof of service or of good faith efforts to serve notice of the application on the designated property owners. Such proof may consist of certified mail receipts, affidavits, or the like.
The cost of a certificate of mailing is $1.40. Also, the wording "good faith efforts" and "or the like" seems to give us options. How about hand delivering letters and having the home owners print and sign their names proving they did receive your notice? We know several of our neighbors, and for those we don't know, we would mail them notices using the $1.40 certificate. Of course I'm going to be on the phone asking them ALL of my questions after this becomes law.
Also, I assume we are in compliance if we use the address of our neighbors from the hawaiitax site. What if their addresses are incorrect, surely that can't be our problem?
Posts: 2,484
Threads: 10
Joined: Feb 2008
My neighbors run a hosted vacation rental. I rarely even know when they have guests.
Posts: 3,218
Threads: 109
Joined: Jun 2010
Seems advantageous to get grandfathered, but I know many rentals that are unpermitted dwellings, would not qualify, and will continue renting regardless.
Posts: 66
Threads: 1
Joined: May 2018
quote:
Originally posted by glinda
They are making this as hard and as expensive as possible!
Isn't it the same as with chickens? Some communities have covenants against, and others for. I hate the sound of roosters.. and don't imagine, for some, the sound of strangers coming and going are any more pleasing.
So is it any worse than my kids and grandkids coming over the use the place? What if I have a family reunion in my home? Leilani has one acre lots in a somewhat noisy at times rain forest. I think my neighbors, the 2 or 3 there are, would be hard pressed to identify a time when they heard noise from my guests or were impacted by the one or two vehicles coming and going.
I deal with chickens, guinea fowl, coquis and all kinds of other noises not of my making on the property. I would be shocked if anyone who wasn't actively looking to be disturbed by our guests and sat as close to the property line as they could could even tell if the house is occupied when we or any guests are there. You can tell when the yard guys are there from lawnmowers and weed whackers, but surprise, exact same happens when I am there.
We'll carry out all the BS in this regulation, just as we pay the taxes and all now.
Some people are just looking to be offended.
Benny
Benny
Posts: 370
Threads: 23
Joined: Feb 2014
I'm more in agreement with Glinda's position on this than many other posters. I suppose it comes down to one's personal experience living close/next to a popular vacation rental. My experience has not been good. Visitors taking a morning stroll through the
neighborhood early in the morning while their body clocks are still on mainland time way too often walk past my gate down my driveway to take photos of orchids or bromeliads in bloom. My dogs go off, I have to run ( usually while still wearing my PJs and on my first cup of coffee ) to see what's causing the commotion. The visitors themselves are mostly nice, apologetic, but still want to get more photos and chat. I bought in an ag subdivision, expecting to have ag people as neighbors. Should I have to transplant my landscaping to make my driveway less appealing so some one else can make money on a short term vacation rental ?
Posts: 5,640
Threads: 101
Joined: Dec 2008
It’s your dogs making the noise, not the tourists.
Posts: 1,120
Threads: 57
Joined: Mar 2013
Originally posted by glinda:
Isn't it the same as with chickens? Some communities have covenants against, and others for. I hate the sound of roosters.. and don't imagine, for some, the sound of strangers coming and going are any more pleasing.
Benny:
So is it any worse than my kids and grandkids coming over the use the place? What if I have a family reunion in my home?....Some people are just looking to be offended.
Perhaps it is different here on Hawaii Island, but the spread of vacation rentals on Oahu has been documented as having a pronounced effect on raising the price of rentals and changing the character of some formerly local neighborhoods. Now, different tourists constantly coming and going....
Many entrepreneurs were buying second and third homes, kicking out long-time tenants, and setting up VRs. It's a business, that for sure.
Posts: 5,640
Threads: 101
Joined: Dec 2008
It’s money flowing into Hawaii. Some people don’t like that these people are paying tax that they would otherwise have to cover.
Posts: 370
Threads: 23
Joined: Feb 2014
Paul W: It’s your dogs making the noise, not the tourists.
My dogs are doing their job, alerting me when strange people come onto my property. The tourists are coming past a gate, onto private property extremely early in the morning. I live in an ag subdivision, not a tourist area.
|
