Streetfighter bonus stage, Puna “mechanics”

[MarkD]

Here is Michigan's solution: (from a quick google)

"Under Michigan law (MCL 257.252a or...) a person shall not abandon a vehicle... It is presumed the owner of record as kept by the (DMV) is responsible for abandoning the vehicle...owner of an abandoned vehicle...will be subject to a civil fine plus costs...

A person... who abandons a motor vehicle may also be found responsible for littering ... and subject to a civil fine from $500 to $2,500 plus costs, state assessments, and other statutory penalties.

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Hawaii legislators could have elected to enact the same. If they believe fining people for dumping vehicles is excessive punishment, they could approve a statute that prohibits issuance of a registration on any vehicle if the owner has been guilty of derelict vehicle abandonment in the past, and paid a fee on this.

HRS 290 covers abandoned vehicles. Hawaii law appears to have little bite.

https://www.lawserver.com/law/state/hawa...utes_290-1

[leilanidude]

I believe that most of the abandoned vehicles on the sides of roads (usually stripped/burnt) are stolen.

Why the state or county doesn't do any sort of bait car sting operation is beyond comprehension.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Puna Kamaili Flowers was ransacked over the weekend. The thieves took so much, more than they expected so they decided to load up the equipment into the company's cargo van and steal that too. Van was left abandoned in HPP, where a resident called the owner because the logo & company name was painted on the vehicle.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/02/18/...g-setback/

How low can thieves stoop?
A Big Island business that is dedicated to helping individuals with developmental disabilities just suffered a serious setback.

If you're worried about your car or truck getting stolen, you might want to paint your name and phone # on the front doors so someone can call you when they spot it in a ditch somewhere.

[alohanaia]

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by leilanidude

I believe that most of the abandoned vehicles on the sides of roads (usually stripped/burnt) are stolen.
Why the state or county doesn't do any sort of bait car sting operation is beyond comprehension.

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In case it's not obvious, officials don't care and won't work towards a solution. The most common vehicle scam on this island is that buyers don't register cars. You sell the car, report your sale to DMV, think you are off the hook? Buyer doesn't register car, drives it for a year, sells it to the next sucker who is nominally respontible for late penalties. But he doesn't register it either. Why should he? County says you are still responsible, seen it a dozen times. The only solution is wait 2 weeks after the sale, call the DMV to see if you still the owner, and if not report your own car as stolen, you still own it!

[Rob Tucker]

Install a discreet GPS tracking device in your vehicle or large equipment.

[Carey]

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Originally posted by leilanidude

Carey - not talking about salvage yards. Talking about the typical 3+ junk cars sitting in multiple yards in the typical subdivision.

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I was not talking about salvage yards either...
the dumping is all over the county, in vacant yards, up & down subdivision roads, along our public streets....
when they opened up Railroad - between HPP & HP/HB/HS/HSRE, dumped cars seemed to be the first things in.... then junked appliances... then other household junk...

& not all roadside stripped vehicles are stolen, watched one car last summer, HWY 11 near the Park, as slowly it went from someone trying to fix & move it, to a stripped hulk... each day something new would disappear from it... the making tape "AV" was placed about halfway into its#699; ~month-long public demise...

The salvage yards seem to be the only ones that take the dumped vehicles (either owner dumped, or "borrowed" dumped) & they are fairly regulated as to their yards.... when they got some money for picking the dumped vehicles, you would see green-hued "puna vehicles" with grass & sometimes trees, growing out of them, being taken to the dump or salvage yards on a fairly regular basis.

Now (as in before the hauling incentive) the "puna vehicles" are mainly hauled away when someone buys land here & finds out how many vehicles the neighbors donated to their land..

[terracore]

"they could approve a statute that prohibits issuance of a registration on any vehicle if the owner has been guilty of derelict vehicle abandonment in the past, and paid a fee on this."

There was a thread either here or city-data where somebody sold their car and diligently sent the thing you tear off on the top to report the sale to the "DMV" within 10 days or risk $100 fine.

The new owners never registered the vehicle or changed title and later abandoned it. The previous owner was sent the bill for the towing and impound.

The "DMV" said sending that thing in doesn't really do anything.

Hawaii is the only place in the world that I'm aware of where a vehicle owner is responsible for all the past due fees from previous owners, and future fees of future owners.

[leilanidude]

The most common vehicle scam on this island is that buyers don't register cars. You sell the car, report your sale to DMV, think you are off the hook? Buyer doesn't register car, drives it for a year, sells it to the next sucker who is nominally respontible for late penalties. But he doesn't register it either.
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On every car I sell, the sale is contingent on both of us going to the DMV to record the transaction. Works quite well.

[MarkD]

The most common vehicle scam on this island is that buyers don't register cars...
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Leilanidude: On every car I sell, the sale is contingent on both of us going to the DMV to record the transaction. Works quite well.

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That would work. Also a more rigorous process for mail-ins. As I recall on vehicle titles there is a little slip at the bottom that the seller tears off before he gives title to buyer and mails that to DMV.

Need a better form and more detailed requirement for information about the buyer's identity. And higher fines for unregistered vehicles.

[MattKarma]

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The most common vehicle scam on this island is that buyers don't register cars...

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Red herring.



***Still can't figure out how to spell 'car' correctly***