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When paranoia takes the podium, reason and perspective leave the room...
How may of the school children that attended these schools have had substantially shortened lives as a result of their exposure to lead and arsenic? How many of the remainder have had substantially shortened lives as a result of: obesity due to poor dietary habits; of the effects of alcohol consumption; as a result of "recreational" consumption of drugs?
Where, again, should we direct our anxiety????
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How may of the school children that attended these schools have had substantially shortened lives as a result of their exposure to lead and arsenic?
Oh I see.. length of life is the criteria. Pretty simple yeah? For one who bitches about folks being dumbed down by a bit of pakalolo one would think it would be cognitive skills, or even the propensity of some to use da kine, or any other number of tell tell signs of lessoned mental and emotional abilities that would be the staff by which you would suggest we measure toxic exposure in our community. Gee, you're an educator, how about the stats on how many actually get to college, graduate, and go on to post graduate studies? I suspect there is a chance toxins that don't necessary kill us may in fact limit us in measurable ways. Limit our community in all the ways so often bitched about when talking about the local community right here.
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geochem - How may of the school children that attended these schools have had substantially shortened lives as a result of their exposure to lead and arsenic?
Who knows - DoH just got around to testing possible exposure, despitee everyone knowing of the issue for decades. As noted above and in The Atlantic article, the real risk is for impaired cognitive functioning. Not sure how adult life-style choices like alcohol and obsiety are commpariable to kids being unknowingly being exposed to neurotoxins at public schoools, but apparently you see this as reasonable.
Not sure if it's paranoia or the arsenic talking, but I am anxious to knnow if your keyboard is getting stuck too????
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any other number of tell tell signs of lessoned mental and emotional abilities
Some years ago a family member who worked in Clinton’s Education Department came for a visit. There was a report in the Tribune-Herald while she was here with (I believe) the percentage of children in area schools requiring special ed and other learning assistance. She had to check whether the numbers at Pahoa schools were correct as they were off the charts. She said the were more than double the highest rates in the worst schools she’d come across on the mainland, including inner city and rural poverty areas. It’s all she could talk about for several days.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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She had to check whether the numbers at Pahoa schools were correct as they were off the charts.
I know doctors that say the same for respiratory conditions in places like Honokaa and Kohala where those poisons were often spread aerially and everyone in the community was exposed, repeatedly.
But hey, they live a reasonable life span, so wtf is the problem? Right?
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"For one who bitches about folks being dumbed down by a bit of pakalolo..."
They're not being dumbed down by "a bit of pakalolo;" they're being dumbed down by starting smoking pot at 13 and 14 and being
chronics by the time they are 16. At least we can take solace in the fact that most ice heads didn't start that until maybe after 18.
True many young people stay away from pot, but two of the more dishonest arguments I've seen is that legalization 1) has no impact on the level of pot usage in society 2) does
not impact how people perceive marijuana, as to its safety.
I might have posted this already: Joe Rogan interview with author of:
"Tell Your Children: The Truth About Marijuana, Mental Illness, and Violence"
Fairly insightful discussion.
http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/po...chael-hart
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There is marijuana use by kids in ALL areas in Hawaii, not just Pahoa. In fact the numbers showing kids using it/ trying it should rise with the more relaxed pot-laws now in action and full legalization shortly around the corner.
But this thread isn't about ganja.
She had to check whether the numbers at Pahoa schools were correct as they were off the charts.
If you look at the list Pahoa and Kapiolani have the trifecta of contaminants or look to be the most contaminated although it doesn't show the level of contamination.
The schools found to have contaminated soil include:
DeSilva Elementary (arsenic and lead)
Haaheo Elementary (lead)
Hilo High (lead)
Hilo Intermediate (lead)
Hilo Union Elementary (chlordane and lead)
Kalanianaole Elementary & Intermediate (lead)
Kapiolani Elementary (arsenic, chlordane and lead)
Kau High & Pahala Elementary (chlordane and lead)
Kaumana Elementary (lead)
Keaau Middle (arsenic and lead)
Keaukaha Elementary (lead)
Laupahoehoe High & Elementary (lead)
Mountain View Elementary (lead)
Naalehu Elementary & Intermediate (lead)
Pahoa Elementary (chlordane and lead)
Pahoa High & Intermediate (arsenic, chlordane and lead)
Waiakea Intermediate (arsenic)
Waiakeawaena Elementary (chlordane and lead)
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MarkD They're not being dumbed down by "a bit of pakalolo;"
So first, no one should worry about lead as the Romans were highly-exposed and highly-functioning (clearly - their kids spoke Latin, right?), then that continual poor academic performance in Hawaii schools, including at the elementary level, is because of ubiquitous (non-chemical) THC exposure (it's not called
chronic under performance for nothing, sha?) and then you point to author Alex Berenson, who was called out by 75 scientists, including study authors, for bias and selectively quoting the research (at least he says up front that his book is not balanced, so that makes it ok?)
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019...x-berenson
I'd hope you're trolling, but maybe you genuinely believe what you post? You could help more by offering to take the schools soil for use in your own yard as you've clearly got plenty of experience shoveling.
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schools found to have contaminated soil
Legalizing dirt consumption has no impact on the number of people who eat dirt, even though it does convey the message that dirt is perfectly safe.
Support the rights of adults to eat dirt, but also regulate children's access to dirt.
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