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Hawaii among the least-innovative states
#31
This whole pretense that "smart" kids should do blank is sadly painted upon them by many.

Let them try and see, working with ones hands very much jumpstarts the mind and in and of itself can lead to innovation.

Good parents show them this and other things and dont wait around for the System to help. Time moves too fast.
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#32
The wider the foundation the higher the peak .
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#33
"working with ones hands very much jumpstarts the mind"

Spoken like a true old codger totally out of touch with modern reality.

"i will share that i am seeing my hard work and dedication paying off big time"

Glad to hear your illegal airport parking business is finally breaking even.
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#34
RWR,
Apologies if you took my neo-utopian comment to refer to yourself - was referencing many other posts and posters here, not you.
And completely agree with your comment about smart kids and technology careers - and certainly wouldn't equate non-technical careers with lack of intelligence. One of the smartest guys I have ever known worked in the drilling industry and had only a high school diploma; and I've known a few extraordinarily talented artists whose day-job was fabrication. The same can be said for the opposite - I've run into more than a few PhDs who, I suspect, were challenged tying their shoes in the morning.

My intended point, though, was that when someone's career choices, and livelihoods, are seriously threatened by the loonie-fringe, then I am willing to cut them some slack if they come across as less than charitable and understanding - or to be properly PC: "inclusive"...
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#35
Mahalo and apologies Geochem. i changed a word bc i agreed with you on that one along qith above.
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#36
"Take woodshop."

I didn't realize until I was speaking to my nephew, that all the shop classes don't exist any more. Wood shop, metals, auto shop, the greenhouse (whatever shop that was), the home ec courses, etc. They all became obsolete from funding cuts or replaced by things like robotics. (But don't even THINK about cutting the football budget!). This could be why kids are racking up $40k/year in student loan debt so they can get their shiny degrees in poetry, political science, sociology, philosophy, and all the other sciences that will make them very conversationalist baristas.

Meanwhile: https://abc7news.com/careers/walmart-hir...-/5104697/

In some markets, they can't attract enough drivers even offering $100k/year.
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#37
Terracore, all excellent points.
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#38
Terracore,

"I didn't realize until I was speaking to my nephew, that all the shop classes don't exist any more. Wood shop, metals, auto shop, the greenhouse (whatever shop that was), the home ec courses, etc. They all became obsolete from funding cuts or replaced by things like robotics. (But don't even THINK about cutting the football budget!). This could be why kids are racking up $40k/year in student loan debt so they can get their shiny degrees in poetry, political science, sociology, philosophy, and all the other sciences that will make them very conversationalist baristas."

If this is the case, then those in charge of education, i.e., the DOE, have a lot to answer for. And parents who suggest their bright students not pursue more innovate STEM courses, which this thread is about, have even more to answer for. Remember, the observatories are trying to encourage STEM subjects and are putting money into the effort, but this is in addition to what the DOE does and not part of their administration.

Here, on PW, it's been suggested that our brightest students shouldn't pursue their dreams as it's all a load of nonsense, but now it seems they can't even get apprenticeships. No wonder young and talented people leave the island and no wonder Hawaii is among the least innovative states.
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#39
I've posted this before, but it's worth repeating. I have a friend who is a counselor at one of the local high schools. Several years ago she held a little celebration for the students in that year's graduating class who had outstanding academic records. Most of them had won scholarships and/or prestigious awards, and she asked them to raise their hands if they thought they would be working in Hawaii when they finished college. Out of over 30 students, two held up their hands.
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#40
raise their hands if they thought they would be working in Hawaii when they finished college
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My 3 all left Hawaii and all successful - on the mainland.
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