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@markp... bullet can bounce back and injure or kill shooter
It's got to be considered a good thing BI police can't hit the side of a barn with their guns. 3 officers unload on this guy in Kona...he drives off, no way to block him in with 3 police cars and while close enough to talk to this guy to far away to hit anything. Good thing the officers didn't attempt to shoot out a tire or 2. bullets could have bounced back and reduced the farce ,, oops force
Happens again in Hawi. shots fired No hit...Your right Mark, Hollywood bull**** at it finest. thats that ....next
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I don't understand all this stuff about stopping or tracking the suspect's car. The car was stopped when it rammed a police vehicle and the suspect escaped on foot. The police know where his vehicle is, they don't know where he is.
https://local.nixle.com/alert/7184610/?sub_id=344108
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Several officers fired rounds into the suspect's vehicle at two locations in Hawi. The pursuit ended when the suspect broad-sided a police vehicle, abandoned his vehicle and fled into a dense brush area. He has not been located yet. Officers are continuing to follow-up on leads as to his location."
" administrative leave "
geez, three less good guys off the street for doing the right thing.a nd yhey job.
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no way to block him in with 3 police cars and while close enough to talk to this guy to far away to hit anything.
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This is why the private owned vehicles are a problem. If they were county owned police vehicles, you can bet that they would have rammed the dude's SUV and stopped him on the spot.
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Some spike strips would have come in handy... they were on a limited access rd. It seems more like a lack of proper equipment. Than a training issue. No proper vehicles. K9 units. Portable spike strips.
Do they even wear protection vests.. I dont remember..
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Mark's post..........."So not surprised at all that nobody shot out the tires, which is Hollywood bull**** anyway. Depending on caliber and hotness of load, bullet can bounce back and injure or kill shooter, too."
I didn't believe you ,Mark......had to email a few guys I know in law enforcement.
You are correct!! Here's one reply I received.................
"Police only shoot at tires in the movies..... we teach not to shoot at tires for one main reason----when you miss, that bullet goes somewhere- probably ricochet off the roadway and endangers everyone else. You may be able to easily shoot out a tire at the sidewall, but at the treads it's much harder. In a classic cop car-behind the suspect's car setup, you may not even be able to see the tires unless your far enough away. Think about parking behind another car- if your too close you can't even see the tires."
(They did ask how the suspect managed to escape, tho.)
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This is why the private owned vehicles are a problem. If they were county owned police vehicles, you can bet that they would have rammed the dude's SUV and stopped him on the spot.
I've read this before from you and others. I disagree.
Their rides engine gets fully detailed by mechanics for free and kept in top running condition all repairs free. So what if they fly down a bumpy road? Free repair shocks struts and cv joints when they start making noise. So what if their ride get's smashed and totaled? Free new one around the corner.
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"Their rides engine gets fully detailed by mechanics for free and kept in top running condition all repairs free. So what if they fly down a bumpy road? Free repair shocks struts and cv joints when they start making noise. So what if their ride get's smashed and totaled? Free new one around the corner."
None of this is true.
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Okay maybe you are right, saying none of that is true. I was told otherwise by a police recruit going through training a few years back.
Are you saying that the individual officer is expected to make repairs on their vehicle (out of their own pocket) when damage is cause through work related conditions? That is what I find to be hard to believe.
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If you think even Dept owned vehicles are kept in peak condition you haven't a clue. Well, the Chief's and a select few others' vehicles probably are. But I would agree that an officer in a personally owned vehicle is not going to be in any rush to PIT a suspects car and accept the subsequent damage. That's assuming they're even taught the maneuver and are authorized to use it. It does work well, most times. Just ramming a suspect's car is dangerous and has even more unpredictable outcomes. Ah, the old Smokey and the Bandit type chases of the past were exciting at least. Rarely done anywhere now days for obvious reasons. Been in a few. They do get the blood pumping. PIT training was an absolute blast by the way.
By the way, spike strips are rather difficult to deploy properly and safely. Not near as simple as it would seem. Sometimes you end up with a lot of flat tires but none on the suspects vehicle. There can be considerable danger to the deploying officer. When they work well, they work well!
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S. FL
Big Islander to be.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
