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[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

(Deadbeat tenant coddling is a key liberal agenda.)

Anyone on Punaweb, liberal, conservative, or otherwise, support the deadbeat tenant coddling agenda?
I don't.

[kalakoa]

the lack thereof that contributes significantly to our homeless problem

Right. Because all homeless want to live in a big rectangular box made of wood, and they have plenty of money to pay rent.

[Durian Fiend]

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Originally posted by MarkD


Surprising that there is not much support for new legislation protecting Hawaii landlords.

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Has there been proposed legislation for this purpose, or do you have a suggestion for such?

[MarkD]

HOTPE: "Anyone on Punaweb, liberal, conservative, or otherwise, support the deadbeat tenant coddling agenda? I don't."

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There is a big divide between liberals and conservatives here. If you look at the link I posted, it gives good reason why there is debate. Again: https://www.rentcafe.com/blog/renting/st...s-renters/

Two pro-landlord examples that are fairly challenged by liberals: 1) Landlords do not have to give advance notice to raise rent 2) Requirements that landlords must make repairs are weak.

The most contentious issue all around: Should landlords be able to expeditiously kick out tenants for failure to pay rent. Most conservatives say Yes. In some states such tenants get kicked out in 5 days by a sheriff. Very pro-landlord legislation.

In Hawaii, the second most accommodating state in the nation towards tenants, we have a hugely protracted process for evictions. It can take months. Liberals want it that way.

I call it coddling or perhaps more precisely: government abuse of landlords. If the state wants, it can provide temporary emergency housing for these folks. (Liberals can help pay into a special fund for the purpose.) Don't burden the home owner. Do you think their bank is going to allow him/her to miss mortgage payments because of a deadbeat tenant?

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Durian Fiend: "Has there been proposed legislation for this purpose, or do you have a suggestion for such?"

There's more chance of legalizing open carry guns in Hawaii than reducing tenant protections.

[TomK]

"In Hawaii, the second most accommodating state in the nation towards tenants, we have a hugely protracted process for evictions. It can take months. Liberals want it that way."

Seriously?

[MarkD]

Yes we have a hugely protracted process for evictions. Particularly if tenant gets a lawyer and concocts a mitigating issue.

One Honolulu case was reported on the evening news a few months back, a husband and wife--guy was an ex-cop of all things--stopped paying rent and refused to move out, claiming that the wife was sick (she was) and that the cause was peeling paint behind a couch. Apparently they were suing also. They had an effective lawyer.

Maybe other posters have examples. PaulW?

[TomK]

You don't get it. I know many people who call themselves liberals. Many of them rent and would be aghast at missing a payment for rent, and some of them even rent their own places out. You might be generalizing for personal reasons or just setting up a straw man, but I know no-one who wants to make it difficult to evict dead beats.

If you mean law makers, then make it clear instead of insulting so many law-abiding people.

[MarkD]

Tom: "You don't get it."

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Rubbish, you're unable to process the issue for some reason. Hawaii is listed as second most "renter-friendly" state for good reason. There is widespread (liberal) sentiment in our state that we should go easy on tenants.

" I know no-one who wants to make it difficult to evict dead beats."

Your personal experiences do not count here.

Many people do not view these tenants as deadbeats; the typical perception is that these folks have fallen on hard times, lost a job maybe, and we shouldn't worsen their situation by evicting them promptly. Give them a few months to try to improve their situation. (As far as the landlord's monetary losses, tough luck.)

Our Legislature responds to the will of the people, broadly speaking. Our tenant protections are supported by much of the population here. By the way, those protections are what a lot of people would call socialism.

[TomK]

"Your personal experiences do not count here."

But yours do?

[Chas]

I agree with Tom here. You really, REALLY don’t get it. At all.

Rubbish. For some reason, you’re unable to process what “liberals” stand for.

“...what a lot of people would call socialism.“
That would be people who only watch Fox News.

What’s next, are we going to be “just like Venezuela”?