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UFO sightings on the rise
"How many government programs do what they claim to do?"

The problem with the article Glinda cited is that it also includes this:

"While not addressing the merits of the program, Sara Seager, an astrophysicist at M.I.T., cautioned that not knowing the origin of an object does not mean that it is from another planet or galaxy. “When people claim to observe truly unusual phenomena, sometimes it’s worth investigating seriously,” she said. But, she added, “what people sometimes don’t get about science is that we often have phenomena that remain unexplained.”"

"James E. Oberg, a former NASA space shuttle engineer and the author of 10 books on spaceflight who often debunks U.F.O. sightings, was also doubtful. “There are plenty of prosaic events and human perceptual traits that can account for these stories,” Mr. Oberg said. “Lots of people are active in the air and don’t want others to know about it. They are happy to lurk unrecognized in the noise, or even to stir it up as camouflage.”"

"For his part, Mr. Reid said he did not know where the objects had come from. “If anyone says they have the answers now, they’re fooling themselves,” he said. “We do not know.”"

So, basically, they're UFOs, which is the point I've been trying to make. They are unidentified.

Further reading:

https://www.space.com/ufos-real-but-not-...ships.html
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/12/n...eport.html
https://www.popsci.com/ufo-aliens-military

And in particular:

https://www.metabunk.org/nyt-gimbal-vide...ect.t9333/
https://www.metabunk.org/explained-the-n...es.t10669/
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I found an article (link below) with an explanation why we haven’t made demonstrable contact with aliens. I have to admit, it sort of makes sense. The theory goes, aliens have discovered us and without our knowledge have us in their zoo. At first glance it seems unlikely, but then I thought about standing in checkout lines at Hilo Walmart, driving on Hwy 130 (in either direction), interactions at County offices - - and it’s a zoo all right. The only question is whether there’s definitive proof that it’s an alien zoo. Based on the keepers at County offices I’d give the odds at 50-50.

https://www.physics-astronomy.org/2019/0...us-in.html
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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I thought this thread was to mention new sitings in Puna. I have not seen anything here, but numerous family, friends and neighbors swear they have seen things they believe to be unidentified advanced technology in the sky.

So has anyone else seen anything here?

Most people believe intelligent life is out there. Check out the recent poll within this article ...

https://www.space.com/breakthrough-liste...lease.html

Poll: Do You Believe Alien Life Exists?

88.28% (1,845 votes) - Yes - We may not have found them yet, but they're out there.

7.08% (148 votes) - I’m not sure

4.64% (97 votes) - No - Aliens are just part of science fiction.


There may be 10 trillion galaxies in the observable universe with possibly an average of 100 million stars per galaxy. That’s 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars (One Septillion) with how many planets? The odds of there NOT being any intelligent life are almost impossible.

There are many thousands of videos on YouTube including NASA film of UFO’s near the ISS, UFO’s near the sun, the moon, the earth. A great many may be our own.

Here’s a three fingered, three toed mummy from Peru...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xZPDhPeQnRY

I haven’t see all the Nazca Peru mummy update videos yet but they sure look real to me. Ancient petroglyphs of three fingered/toed creatures in the area too.
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The odds of there NOT being any intelligent life are almost impossible.

Intelligent life isn't enough; the civilization must survive its own adolescence, a task at which we are currently failing.
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My dog is rather intelligent but interstellar space travel is not his thing.
Assume the best and ask questions.

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Tonight is a great night for looking up. You can see the milky way and the stars are super bright. Might catch a UFO if you're lucky, even if it is just a satellite... Smile
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Actually, I am unable to identify what I saw yesterday, pre dawn. A large, bright light moving very quickly east to west. It was not a flyover plane or shooting star. There was no sound.

I thought someone might know.
1 island 2 another
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pre dawn. A large, bright light moving very quickly east to west

The International Space Station has passed over Puna the last few days, fairly bright, before 5 AM:

ISS Track Over Puna
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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ISS travels in the opposite direction, west to east, and has been far north of us.

http://www.isstracker.com/
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ISS just posted amazing photo of their view of the moon.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BzLnJEDnel6/

Puna, Puna, Pahoa, lava, lava, hula
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