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It is day 14 of the protest on our mountain. As time goes on more and more people join the protectors. Why is that? Are these people ant-science? Ant-knowledge? And are the people who support the TMT anti- justice? I don't think so. But we are so accustomed to binary thought of an antiquainted kind: there's always a winner and that means there's always a loser. But wait. Maybe there's a third way. The Hawaiians call it Kapu Aloha which means all are treated with love, respect and empathy in a dispute. Yes, empathy. That means that every effort is made to walk in the shoe of the Other. That may mean there is a third way.
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Please explain what this third way is. Does it include people ignoring the rule of law and illegally preventing others going about their business?
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Everyone likes a party. People with no clue about the old religion will join in to look good for their peers, lord some temporary power over law enforcement, be part of something...
Tell me how anyone is being harmed by the TMT in a way not already debunked by the BLNR report, and I will empathize. In the meantime, the protesters need to show respect for their fellow citizens and quit blocking the road. The protests and discussions can continue as long as needed, that's what makes democracy great.
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It's a free party with all food and supplies donated. Three prepared meals a day. Why would they come down...
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So what now? A boycott war?
So the pro( tect)testors are gonna boycott KTA?
So da pro TMT ers gonna boycott what? Kapoho kine cause they closed 1 day in protest?
Lol
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But wait. Maybe there's a third way. The Hawaiians call it Kapu Aloha which means all are treated with love, respect and empathy in a dispute.
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Not sure that's applicable here, from a practical sense. In many other projects of dispute, the Sandy Beach homes near the shoreline being an example, there were all sorts of mitigating factors that allowed a compromise: Fewer buildings, lower height levels, greater setbacks from the ocean, trees planted as buffers, etc.
Nothing like that can work here. TMT can't be downsized. TMT is either built or not.
Possibly there could be negotiation on removing more existing telescopes from the mountain, but I don't think either side would see that as a workable compromise.
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Honestly, I think that TMT is currently bearing the brunt of a long simmering problem going all the way back to the mid 19th century. In the early days of the Hawaiian Kingdom and before it, land ownership was not really a thing. People belonged to the land more than the other way around. Things changed over time with ideas filtering in from newcomers and the idea of ownership of land was initiated. The 1840 constitution tried to embed in law the idea that the land belonged to the people while simultaneously allowing commerce. In 1848, there was an attempt to give the land directly to individual people (the great mahele). Due to cultural and educational reasons, this did not achieve it's goal and created a large group of people who had no land. To this day, this disenfranchisement has festered. DHHL supposedly was created to deal with this issue, but because of underfunding and ineptitude has been almost wholely unable to resolve the problem. This has resulted in a large group of disenfranchised people finally getting to the point where they want to exert some control. I think (possibly in ignorance) that this is a much more important factor than cultural/religious reasons for blocking the project and that the latter are a handy item to hang one's argument upon.
Personally, while I am fully supportive of science and would love to see a telescope built, I completely understand the generations of futility that have led to this impasse. I submit these thoughts with humility and the expectation that both sides will find fault with them.
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" . . . but because of underfunding and ineptitude has been almost wholely unable to resolve the problem."
Ineptitude is more to blame than lack of money. In fact, some have suggested that increasing funding to DHHL/OHA is throwing good money after bad. There have also been corruption accusations, and I believe the Feds have given notice of investigation. Google "Sandwich Isles TelCom" for a look at how DHHL does business and safeguards (not!) the beneficiaries' money.
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I see that there has been disenfranchisement and betrayal. Nothing about that explains blocking the TMT which is truly cutting off one's nose to spite one's face, to say nothing of lies and general bad faith on the part of the protesters.
I remain amazed at how our government officials seem to flounder cluelessly of course.
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... here's a cynical view: Since we couldn't protest Obamacare & ACA because it was politicaly incorrect, we have been suffering with (forced) mediocre health care, based on "science" which is really superficial, politicized, mass produced garbage. One size does NOT fit all. So now the big "science" project, some of which is to tell us where we can go when we die ('cause bradda, you aren't going there alive for sure)... doesn't satisfy. It's a pawn really in a larger battle. Maybe someone could explain how TMT could help with life on earth. That might help.
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