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who owns Mauna Kea Access Road?
#21
HCC 24-2© still applies: road has been "open to the public" for more than 6 months and is now subject to all the rules and regulations applicable to a public road.

Subdivisions can't close their "privately owned" roads for this reason, why is the MK access any different?
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#22
@ Ironyak from Star advertiser link...Attorney General has said that the transfer of the road to DoT already occurred, although the land-swap possibly required may never have been finalized.

Kaimana wrote:

"This is a prime example of why Hawaiians are so angry."

I think Kaimana put the hammer where the nail is...
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#23
This is a prime example of why Hawaiians are so angry.

Non-Hawaiians have no reason to be angry?

Because we can just go back where we came from?
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#24
Why would non-Hawaiians be angry with the DHHL, they aren't the ones getting screwed by them. What I wrote was in reference to the article posted.
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#25
Why would non-Hawaiians be angry with the DHHL, they aren't the ones getting screwed by them.

It's a small island, screw has unintended consequences.

Case in point: TMT is being delayed -- possibly indefinitely -- because DHHL isn't doing their job: if "the" Hawaiians had land to call their own, it's possible they wouldn't be illegally occupying this land.
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#26
cough cough, DHHL is a state agency that receives hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars. It seems some of them might be upset by any bad management or poor practices that money funds regardless of their race.
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#27
DHHL is a state agency that receives hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars

So "we the people" are paying for DLNR to issue permits, paying again for court challenges to those permits, then paying some more to have DHHL screw over the Hawaiians, then paying again to supplement the illegal occupation of Mauna Kea (barricades, traffic signal, police).

I probably missed some.
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#28
If the State cannot guarantee access to the site, isn't the TMT permit invalid on its face?

That's going to be an expensive lawsuit.
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#29
So I should have wrote EVERYONE is angry. lol. DHHL and the State have been doing illegal things like this from the get go. I know people have brought up the same type of issues with the land that was sold to the Bikini Atoll group. The States titles are all messed up and shouldn't be selling any of it until it's cleared up.

DHHL needs to give everyone on the list the land that is allocated for them and then only deal with what ever land is left over. It would get rid of so much of the corruption.
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#30
DHHL needs to give everyone on the list the land that is allocated for them

Except that DHHL doesn't "give", they "lease" -- which has always seemed (to me) a sort of scam.
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