Access to Mauna Kea

[TomK]

Ige and the state have now managed to say nothing and yet say a lot about how law enforcement costs will or will not be paid by the state. It's wishy-washy nonsense that says little but implies that the county won't be reimbursed law enforcement costs or they might, depending on whatever it is the state decides is access to the mountain or doesn't. Or something else that they might have implied or not. I think they have hired sir Humphrey from Yes Prime Minister (e.g., https://youtu.be/85fx0LrSMsE)

https://www.khon2.com/news/local-news/go...on-access/

"Gov. David Ige told Always Investigating on Wednesday, after we requested clarification about the intent of the letter, that: “The state is working with the county to ensure legal, safe, peaceful access for all of those who have the legal right to be on Mauna Kea. That includes all of the astronomers and the people who work on the existing telescopes. That also includes the 30-meter telescope project. As long as we are working to ensure legal access for all those people, we will be supporting the county in enforcement costs.”"

[TomK]

Regarding access to Mauna Kea and the resumption of observatory operations on the mountain, this is an interesting video from Big Island Video News. It highlights the impacts of lost observing time, the safety issues of having to use the spur road to gain access to the mountain and the difficulties in transporting delicate and sensitive equipment to and from the observatories.

https://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2019/...ve-update/

[Obie]

Here is the rebuttal to the video Tom posted.

https://www.facebook.com/joshua.mangauil...163985338/

When is the state going to put an end to this BS ?

[rainyjim]

Driving while videotaping?

[dan d]

The state and the telescopes are going to play the wait forever and see game.


HPP

[kalianna]

I'm coming to that same conclusion. Why is the state doing nothing? If protesters are arrested, much upheaval. If protestors are victorious, much upheaval. Better to do absolutely nothing, have talks that neither party is privy to, wait for TMT to decide to go to Canary Islands and then say, "Oh well, we tried." Then boast about how safe it all was.

[macuu222]

I,for one, won't drive Saddle Road anymore when going to Kona until it's safe.

[kalakoa]

I stopped going to Kona entirely.

[reni]

"Ige and the state have now managed to say nothing and yet say a lot about how law enforcement costs will or will not be paid by the state. It's wishy-washy nonsense that says little but implies that the county won't be reimbursed law enforcement costs or they might, depending on whatever it is the state decides is access to the mountain or doesn't. Or something else that they might have implied or not."

" I think they have hired sir Humphrey from Yes Prime Minister"

Tom, one of my most favorite shows of all time!!

We do have a "civil servant" situation here in Hawaii but I doubt any could hold a candle to Sir Humphrey's wit! Never the less they are in control.

Rainyjim, you said my last post was doublespeak. Not to me it isn't.

Thru my eyes, the problem is not Tmt, might as well be TNT at this stage. The problem is our State & county Government.
They have played one branch against the other for so long .
We all are held hostage to this, we all pay the costs for their substandard jobs.
Look at the latest Hawaii State Supreme Court ruling regarding Pohakuloa. Is this not Mauna Kea revisited? Do I think that our State Government will uphold it's own ruling? Unfortunately not.
Does it Pis# off the Hawaiians and environmentalists? Of course it does.

[TomK]

Let's be clear. It's not just Hawaiians and environmentalists that the state and county have pissed off. It's everyone.