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Mauna Kea Access Rd & Summit Open
#11
State-issued permits
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County isn't relevant here


And don't forget Kingdom-Protestor social media pronouncements, which supersede County as well. Because the County is too busy collecting and stashing federal disaster funds while keeping Puna property owners away from their County permitted homes.
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#12
This is a Civil Defense Road Closure message for Thursday afternoon on December 26.

Mayor Harry Kim announced that the Mauna kea Access Road is temporarily closed to the public as the road is being cleared to make it completely accessible to the public.

During the road closure, access will be limited to telescope personnel, ranchers, conservation workers, hunters and cultural practitioners, as previously arranged. The road will reopen to the general public on Saturday, December 28. This date coincides with the reopening of the Hale Pohaku Visitor
STAR PARTY VISITOR CENTER BEE THERE SUNSET
OR ACROSS AT THE POWER STATION IF ITS TO BUSY
LOTSA NEW PARKING

HPP

HPP
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#13
Mayor Harry Kim announced that the Mauna kea Access Road is temporarily closed to the public

I thought County had no juridisdiction over that road?
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#14
I thought County had no jurisdiction over that road?

Maybe we should post this under the Discoveries On Mauna Kea thread?
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#15
From HPR’s Ryan Finnerty, who is onsite:

Anti-TMT leaders have accepted an offer from @MayorHarryKim to mutually stand down for the next 2 months. State & county police will not try to remove the demonstrators, who in turn will fully clear the #MaunaKea summit access road.
https://twitter.com/rfinnerty1/status/12...9957564416
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#16
It looked like about 30 or so people in the photo.

Is that all it takes to shut down progress?

I wish they would have had the troops out to stop the wasteful steel on steel "light rail" on Oahu. Then we'd have a budget left with which to perhaps house people. That seems to be the crux of the matter.
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#17
The County is providing construction equipment and building materials for the protestors to move their illegal structures.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2019/12/28...announced/

Lead-in photo (with machinery & materials) from HNN main page to article:
https://images.app.goo.gl/NPZi9zHyVeZszujR7

Questions:
* Is this service available for Puna residents who have homes in areas designated off limits by The County, like intact homes not accessible due to the lava flow? Or Puna residents living in unpermitted structures when they are asked to vacate?
* Does construction equipment on Mauna Kea in a place of refuge (first recognized by the protestors in 2019) desecrate the refuge?
"I'm at that stage in life where I stay out of discussions. Even if you say 1+1=5, you're right - have fun." - Keanu Reeves
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#18
County is providing construction equipment and building materials for the protestors

Confused: I thought the protestors were occupying State land over which County has no jurisdiction nor even "right of entry"?
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#19
Criminals on the mountain:

Police Chief Paul Ferreira ... added the public “should be appalled” at the number of DUI arrests and child-restraint violations on a 60 mph highway, putting the road’s users at risk.

The 18-week tally of 8,324 citations were for: speeding, 3,878; excessive speeding, 53; seat belt violations, 523; child-restraint violations, 57; use of cellphone or electronic device while driving, 90; excessively tinted windows and/or windshields, 185; driving without a license, 269; driving without insurance, 334; unsafe vehicle, 364; other moving violations, 207; no license plates, 251; regulatory violations, 2,105; and parking violations, eight.

https://www.westhawaiitoday.com/2019/12/...citations/

With the number of unlicensed, unregistered, unrestrained, unsafe vehicles operating on the mountain, headed toward you with inebriated and hypocritical drivers behind the wheel at 60 mph (hypocritical because they're driving unregistered & unlicensed on taxpayer funded roads) - - and you're also driving in their direction at 60 mph, remember, the uninsured motorist option on your insurance policy should probably not be an option but a necessity.
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#20
the public “should be appalled” at the number of DUI arrests and child-restraint violations

Confused: doesn't State collect the fines, even though County pays for the enforcement?

Otherwise, HPD wouldn't be $3M over budget, right?
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