We're Doomed

[kander]

Lol, ok. New york to save the day. Perhaps we better worry where were going to get our ventilators from.

[terracore]

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Originally posted by HereOnThePrimalEdge

Maybe you should watch Kushner's talk...

Preferably unedited, not the reality TV version cut so he looks “smart” on Administration News Outlets.
The Jared from Subway had more experience going into this than the Jared from nepotism. When it comes to plastic gloves, clean aprons, sneeze guards, and sandwich shop ventilation systems which maintain a healthy environment, I’d take Mr. $5 foot long in charge of the COVID-19 response, rather than the multi million dollar ding-dong.

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HOTPE this is not the time for party politics. You are promoting a convicted / imprisoned child molester as somebody who is smarter or superior than somebody with an ivy league education. Due to politics. I've enjoyed our intellectual "debates" over the years but... really... I'm disappointed.

ETA: disappointment / spelling

[Guest]

ivy league education

Wow, you're getting really good at this! Humour must come naturally to you. Too cool, there's a number of budding talents here. Have you thought of starting your own YouTube channel? I hear they're all the rage in these socially distanced days.

I should add... please do not think of me as just being flippant. Jared is famous for his bought and paid for and never deserved ivy league education.

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-s...to-harvard

The Story Behind Jared Kushner’s Curious Acceptance Into Harvard

"My book exposed a grubby secret of American higher education: that the rich buy their under-achieving children’s way into elite universities with massive, tax-deductible donations. It reported that New Jersey real estate developer Charles Kushner had pledged $2.5 million to Harvard University in 1998, not long before his son Jared was admitted to the prestigious Ivy League school..."

Check it out, it's a page turner.

And please do not be discouraged about the YouTube video idea. You have that deadpan shtick down.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

this is not the time for party politics.

Who’s talking politics? I didn’t say I preferred Subway Jared’s political affiliation.
I was discussing experience. Or a lack thereof.

Kushner said. “I’m doing my own projections, and I’ve gotten a lot smarter about this. New York doesn’t need all the ventilators.” (Dr. Anthony Fauci, the country’s top expert on infectious diseases, has said he trusts Cuomo’s estimate.)
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/02/opini...virus.html

He’s gotten a lot smarter about this. He’s a paid intern, learning on the job. At our expense, financially and as his guinea pigs.

[kander]

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Originally posted by hokuili

Have you thought of starting your own YouTube channel? I hear they're all the rage in these socially distanced days.

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It would be a lot like watching nighttime personalities broadcast from their homes. Without the scripting, lights, sound studio and laugh track the veil lifts of how un-entertaining those people are.

Its not the same going to youtube.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

Without the scripting, lights, sound studio and laugh track the veil lifts of how un-entertaining those people are.

It’s a lot like watching people without education in the medical field, or relevant experience when they stand up at a COVID-19 press briefing and wing it. I wish it were only unentertaining, unfortunately it’s a matter of life and death.

[ironyak]

terracore - Again, I ask you, did you actually watch/read his presentation?

So we're clear, you're talking about his contributions to the daily coronavirus task force updates on 4/2 i.e. this?
https://youtu.be/n1y9KOesF6w?t=2540
and this?
https://youtu.be/n1y9KOesF6w?t=6385

What exactly about these speeches gives you confidence that he has the knowledge or experience needed to be involved?

You also know there are many things that don't happen during these press conferences which the article addresses, right? Do you seriously just call "fake news" or "fake sources" on all this and refuse to acknowledge any of it?

I can provide many other non-NY times links if that's any help? Or is it all just political hit-job propaganda? (these are not rhetorical questions - I'm actually trying to understand how you vet your sources)

[Guest]

The leading edge of the PR campaign is now saying everyone in America should become a seamstress. Smart dem buggahs are, eh?

Ok, that's the leading edge, Rose Garden kine. But what's going on in the minds of da guys on the other side of all that show 'n tell? 'Cause OMG we gotta hope there is more to it than a daily dog and pony show.

And then, today, there was this little peek beyond the curtain..

https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-m...08504.html

Coronavirus may cause some food shortages, warns government task force

The nation could begin to see food shortages for some products if the people working on the supply chain lack personal protective equipment, warns an internal Trump administration document obtained by Yahoo News.

Empty supermarket shelves have become one of the most jarring images of the coronavirus pandemic, which has sickened 270,000 Americans and killed 7,000. But so far, there have been no food shortages, despite 90 percent of the American population being under state-enforced lockdown orders.

And despite the difficulties people have had in obtaining certain foods, like pasta, grocery stores are generally well stocked. Government officials have argued that any temporary shortages are the result of unprecedented demand, as people have bought more than usual, rather than an actual supply-chain breakdown.

“I want to assure you that our food supply chain is sound,” Sonny Perdue, the secretary of agriculture, said on March 20.

That, however, could change if the people who make, package and deliver food lack personal protective equipment, or PPE, including face masks and gloves, according to the internal document shared with Yahoo News, which provides a daily update on various aspects of the coronavirus response, including details ranging from state-by-state infections to hospital capacity and test sites.

The document, titled “Senior Leadership Brief COVID-19” and dated April 2, 2020, bears the seals of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Health and Human Services. It contains a brief description of findings made by the Food Supply Chain Task Force on the availability of PPE.

Such equipment has been in short supply in hospitals, where doctors and nurses are routinely exposed to high amounts of coronavirus. The food industry also relies on a variety of protective equipment for food safety.

The April 2 briefing warns that the task force had completed an analysis and there could be “commodity impacts if current PPE inventory is exhausted.” There would be shortages of milk within 24 hours and of fresh fruits and vegetables “within several days.” The document estimates that “meat, poultry, seafood, and processed eggs” would become scarce within a period of two to four weeks, while “dry goods and processed foods inventories” — that is, the non-perishables that are pantry staples — could become scarce “as soon as four weeks” after face masks and gloves run out across the food supply chain.

The document is a warning, and is not descriptive of the current situation. There are no signs of a food shortage across the nation. But the coronavirus pandemic is putting strain on every aspect of the food supply chain, from the people who raise and grow what we eat to the people who deliver it to our supermarkets.

So, I hear, masks are in vogue. Pretty cool, eh? Yeah, masks, wasn't it just the other day we were told to put our silly masks away? And now, today, we read that the feds, the guys really looking at this, are thinking without masks the entire food supply chain could break.

It's like we took a turn and ended up in a different universe. Like wham, you're driving down the road, wind through your hair it's a beautiful day and bam! The sky falls and you're driving through hell! And not the Disneyland kine...

[ironyak]

What does sugar from Brazil, blueberries from Spain, and watermelons from Florida have in common? They all aren't making it to the stores because of a lack of workers, containers, trucks, planes, and buyers.

Good thing we only import like 90% of our food - this couldn't possibly affect us right?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-healt...SKBN21L2V7

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

this is not the time for party politics.

Somebody should inform the Vice President. While Americans are dying, he’s blocked health officials from appearing on the news. Including doctors and scientists who have provided the most accurate information for keeping Americans safe and healthy:

Vice President Mike Pence’s office has declined to allow the nation’s top health officials to appear on CNN in recent days and discuss the coronavirus pandemic killing thousands of Americans, in an attempt to pressure the network into carrying the White House’s lengthy daily briefings in full.
https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/trump-...ng-on-cnn/