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Install a hundred roosters in little huts on the property and live far away in Hilo for a month. Then, when you do move in and clear away all the roosters, they will be glad to see you. Maybe you could rent it to a rooster farmer for several months?
Talk to your neighbors about putting in six to eight foot high rock walls all the way around your lot (completely blocking their view) to keep all the hogs you will be raising on your hog farm from wandering off. Then perhaps the thought of a house will be much less bothersome to them.
Fence it with hogwire and keep some goats inside to clear away the brush and eat the fallen fruit until you are ready to build. That might actually be a do-able thing.
If anything some sort of fence might be a good idea just to sort of get the idea of "my bushes" into their psyche. Right now, they probably sort of - at least in their mind if not in reality - claim your property as "their yard" and are feeling crowded.
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Catz, anything above 6' requires a permit so I recommend a 5'11 wall. Chicken farm next to their houses would do wonders, chicken manure smells good! 
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When we moved into our neighborhood in Hilo there were about 40 chickens running around all over the place and the roosters were crowing at all hours of the night starting at about 11:00 PM. It would go on all night long. They roosted in a tree close to our bedroom window in our next door neighbors yard. That house was vacant, so no problem for the neighbor. Also, they weren't his chickens, so not his fault. After a few days my husband went to Walmart and bought a pellet gun. Long story short, he killed most of the chickens and caught the rest and relocated them. Half of our neighbors hated him for getting rid of the chickens and the other half loved him for it. It has been over a year now and the ones who hated him are getting over it. Not that we have a terribly friendly bunch on our block, but at least the stink eye has stopped. By the way, my husband is local, so it's not a hate the haole thing. Also, he loves animals and doesn't hunt for fun, so killing the chickens was a very difficult, but necessary thing he had to do in order for us to get any sleep. In time things will most likely get much better in your neighborhood. Once they realize that you are there to stay, they will probably turn their attention to something, or someone else. Good luck!
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Were in HSRE so no chickens at all. But two houses over is NOT HSRE. We wanted some hens for eggs, but no can do. I sit each morning and listen to about 20 roosters at a house a few blocks over...I wonder how their neighbors can stand it...I mean they are REALLY loud. I think one rooster in the distance is a nice country sound, but DANG.
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I think the neighbors are thinking "Hey, it's a haole on the mainland, lets go after him!" After reading all the posts in this subject I found only one thing you can be held responsible for, your tree branch encroaching into the neighbors property. I don't think your lot is the only one favored by the rats there and I don't think those rats wear name tags with your TMK on.
One of my clients had a similar experience with his neighbor here in Kona and the neighbor cut down his tree. The neighbor was proscecuted for criminal property damage and had to pay $25K to my client. Don't back down, property right is still around in the US the last time I checked!
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I'm willing to bet the neighbors are haole too! That's not the normal route(phone call to neighbor about problem) a Hawaiian would take.
Growing up in Lahaina during the early 70's I found that vibe often coming from transplanted haoles who moved there from places like Sacremento, Seattle, etc,etc..
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Lots of good, humerous as well as sad (killing the chickens for a non hunter type) solutions here. Lots of creative thinking out of the box! Lets hope some of these solutions won't be needed. Good luck with your lot!
I just wanted to say welcome and thank you to Francesca for sharing her story also.
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John and Rob - you are right on the zoning with the COH, but the State classifies it as urban (per Jonathon @ Planning)... wondered why you could apply for ohana on Ag land - that solves the mystery!
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Beachboy, you are probably right. The only time I had problem with someone on the East side was in Nanawale Estates when I was looking at lots and a haole yelled at me "Haole, go back to the mainland where you came from!" It was funny and I probably have been here longer than him!
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It was heartwarming to see everyone come together to defend a total strangers right to follow his dream, especially these of you that already live there and provide so much information and support for those of us trying to get there.
These neighbors might have a totally different view of things if they realized the support that Jeffhale has in Puna.
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LOL Chickens, and giving them some of their own chicken manure attitude right back to them is too funny..
Unfortunately I am not as vindictive as I know I could be. Maybe we just need to sell it, except I don't think we'll get our money back in today's market. Paradise with neighbors who have nothing better to do but blame others because THEY live in the jungle and think they can control it is not what we had in mind.
Brad, thanks for looking, at's about what I expected, it's not much bigger than last year. I was kind of hoping somebody would decipher my location and have a look. A member here looked for me yesterday too, shot three pictures, (ran out of memory) But they were just enough so I could see the growth has not changed as much as the neighbors seem to make it out. The grass is the same height and the shrubs are about 2 feet higher than last year. From your report what was about 1 1/2 to 2 inches is now 3, in diameter. I can deal with that, and it's exactly as I expected, nothing a brush hog couldn't make short work of. And Albizia, heck I chopped on some small ones last year just to get a feel for them. Man, those things ARE giant weeds, believe it! There’s no solid core within them, one whack with a machete on a 2-3 inch stem/branch and you can just snap them off. Who ever brought those things over was NUTZ! Prehistoric weeds! Nightmare from nuclear blast 1950’s B movie type of plant, only real.
The neighbors are either local or they've acquired a local native accent cause they don't sound like no Haole, just average local families. Me thinks if it is not the fact they want my dirt, they got spoiled when the lot was graded and are thinking "lets get the rich Haole on the mainland". What they don't know is; I am just a average stiff and don't have cash lying around to 'just' trim and mow a empty lot out side of city limits once a month or so for their pleasure, nor mine. However, I've needed to get it cut down all year long and get photos of the graded lot so I could draft a decent layout to place a house and the like. So, I've wanted it cut more than they do.. Moreover, if they want what they ask, they’ll need to have the city extend it’s boundaries and I am not the person to be complaining bout that, it’s a political thing. But I’ll be there this Monday night anyway.. probably tired and grumpy from the flight, I doubt it would be a good idea to visit them right off, ha.
Rats? I live in the center off my city in a 1893 home, it's drafty and we are in the Ozarks. If I do not buy rat poison every fall, just before the rats and mice move in for the winter, Guess what? Last year we were there on the island and did not get the poison. Just after we got back my wife had to go out of town and take care of her sick mother, Japan, I was down and not very active, by the time I did, we were infested.. I generally keep rat and mice poison fresh and handy in strategic locations in my house all year long. Last year we had a reminder of why we do.. Oh don't get me started, because due to being there we had a whole family of raccoons move in too. And the male had two females in-between our floors. It took from winter to spring to get them out, and by then all seven youngsters too! Critters, as they call them out here, are all threw out the sewer system in the whole town which is three times bigger than downtown Hilo.
Anyways, Thanks everybody, small town I am sure we’ll all meet up. Da hale wit da crokett hans.
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