The Plot Thickens!

[AaronM]

Data from the Mayo Clinic suggests that efficacy of the vaccines against nasal infection, including asymptomatic cases, has fallen from the original level of around 90% to 76% for the Moderna vaccine and 42% for the Pfizer vaccine since Delta’s emergence. At this rate, plan on getting your annual covid booster shot.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/...1.full.pdf

[Durian Fiend]

Data from the Mayo Clinic suggests that efficacy of the vaccines against nasal infection, including asymptomatic cases, has fallen from the original level of around 90% to 76% for the Moderna vaccine and 42% for the Pfizer vaccine since Delta’s emergence.  At this rate, plan on getting your annual covid booster shot.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/...1.full.pdf

Or maybe not.  A case could be made for weaning off vaccinations and allowing future infections to occur, if it's shown that reinfections don't cause serious illness.

[sistersue]

Data from the Mayo Clinic suggests that efficacy of the vaccines against nasal infection, including asymptomatic cases, has fallen from the original level of around 90% to 76% for the Moderna vaccine and 42% for the Pfizer vaccine since Delta’s emergence.  At this rate, plan on getting your annual covid booster shot.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/...1.full.pdf

Or maybe not.  A case could be made for weaning off vaccinations and allowing future infections to occur, if it's shown that reinfections don't cause serious illness.

I wonder if we can get an antibody test to see if we need a booster?

[Ben Dover]

...you can't just ignore the amount of death and suffering ...

   

“fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported“…

https://digital.ahrq.gov/sites/default/f...t-2011.pdf

If over 12,000 deaths from the “Covid19 Vaccines” have been reported to the CDC’s VAERS system and less than 1% are even reported we’re talking about over a million deaths from the unapproved, experimental gene therapies. 

https://youtu.be/D3x0rQT_eSw

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

If over 12,000 deaths...less than 1% are even reported ...we're talking about over a million deaths from...

No we're not.
vaccine adverse events ≠ death
Adverse effects can be a sore arm.  Which is not death. Or even close.
(Question.  If Ben Dover touches his toes, will his name change to Seymour Butts?)

[AaronM]

1,000,000 deaths directly attributed to the covid vaccines?

A) That sounds far fetched.

B) If true, I wonder what their comorbidities were.

[Ben Dover]

If over 12,000 deaths...less than 1% are even reported ...we're talking about over a million deaths from...

No we're not.
vaccine adverse events ≠ death
Adverse effects can be a sore arm.  Which is not death. Or even close.
(Question.  If Ben Dover touches his toes, will his name change to Seymour Butts?)

You have to click on that graphic, the VAERS report as of July 30, 2021. It says 545,338 cases where vaccine is covid-19 including 12,366 deaths.

Harvard study says less than 1% report to VAERS so do the math. If it's 1% reporting that's 1,236,600 deaths, some experts don't believe it's that many but say it could be in the hundreds of thousands. 12,366 is too many.

[randomq]

That's not how VAERS works, it's all unverified reports. Also, the US tracks deaths and excess deaths, and those deaths would have been noticed and categorized. We have multiple competing vaccines, so it is in everyone's interest to identify problems in one or the other, which is why we heard about (one in a million) issues with J&J, etc.

Please stop spreading stupid conspiracy theories here.

[HereOnThePrimalEdge]

You have to click on that graphic...

If I click the graphic I see it is from the National Vaccine Information Center, which is not the National Vaccine Program Office.  It is an anti vaccine social media group with little credibility and even less reliability when it comes to facts, which they seemingly pull out of a hat.  

[Durian Fiend]

I wonder if we can get an antibody test to see if we need a booster?

https://www.statnews.com/2021/08/16/scie...-covid-19/

"Scientists generally caution against individuals relying on antibody tests to determine their own protection against Covid-19. The tests can be faulty at such a granular level, and, as the researchers behind the new correlates study acknowledged, only look at antibodies, not the other parts of the immune response — like B cells and T cells — that are also involved in keeping people protected from disease.

Still, the immune correlate studies could more broadly inform the discussion about when and whether people — or at least certain groups of people — should get a booster shot. The research groups are continuing to follow the study volunteers and will track their antibody levels. If they drop over time, and in turn there’s an increase in Covid-19 cases among those people, it could point to the level at which people should receive another shot."