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Uncle Billy's emergency proclamation
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https://www.bigislandvideonews.com/2023/...-declared/

Why is the state paying for the demolition?  Wouldn't it be more reasonable to lease the mess to another operator who will tear it down and rebuild at their own expense?  Or are they turning it into a park or something?

[b](BIVN)[/b] – As the Hawaiʻi County Council moves forward with a resolution urging the Governor to issue an emergency proclamation due to the hazardous conditions at the former Uncle Billy’s Hilo Bay Hotel on Banyan Drive, state officials say such a proclamation is already in the works.

Both the State and the County are “in the process of declaring an emergency proclamation,” said Dawn Chang, the chair of the Hawaiʻi Department of Land and Natural Resources during Wednesday’s council committee meeting. Chang said the proclamation “will suspend certain state laws, as allowed by federal law, and the mayor’s emergency proclamation will suspend certain County laws.”
“These laws that are being suspended will be utilized only to the extent necessary to quickly build a perimeter fence to secure the property against further trespassing,” Chang said, “and to demolish the building.”
Chang said the DLNR “had requested $14 million from the legislature to demolish Uncle Billy’s building. Based upon the estimates we had received this year, we received legislative authorization of $8 million geobond reimbursable. The $8 million is only enough to partially demolish the building to make it uninhabitable.”
“Depending on the proposed use, we may need additional legislative appropriation to remove the remaining debris and subsurface utilities and foundation,” Chang said. “Our engineering division is working on preparing the necessary scope of work for the contractor to demolish the building. With the emergency proclamation, we anticipate the contractor will take four to six months from the start to finish to abate any hazardous materials,” she added.

Chang said DLNR DOCARE officers will continue to monitor the property, “however, due to the current unsafe conditions, DOCARE and First Responders are not being permitted to even enter the building.”

Without the emergency proclamation, Chang said, “we probably would not be able to remove Uncle Billy for another two years, just with the contracting and the procurement process, so this should help relieve some of the tension and provide the Hawaiʻi island, and Hilo community in particular, some more expeditious relief.”
“I have thought through a lot of these things,” said Councilwoman Sue Lee Loy, who introduced the Uncle Billy’s resolution, “as far as what does emergency powers do? As far as truncating the process. What do we do with individuals who are unhoused in that area? What do we do with our construction debris? These are all conversations I’ve been having on my own.”

The council committee voted to forward the resolution to the full council with a positive recommendation.
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#2
“Depending on the proposed use, we may need additional legislative appropriation to remove the remaining debris and subsurface utilities and foundation

Depending on proposed use?
Enquiring minds want to know, what use would not require removing debris, etc?
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#3
"Enquiring minds want to know, what use would not require removing debris, etc?" - HOTPE

Let me translate Hawaii bureaucrat/politician speak to English for you:

"Even with emergency powers and a ton of money, we are incapable of doing the job correctly at one go."
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#4
They discussed in the video. They were "only" funded $8M for a $14M demolition. The $8M is only enough to create a big uninhabitable pile of rubble. The emergency proclamation is about keeping people out, turning it into rubble accomplishes that.
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#5
rubble accomplishes that.

Then wouldn’t the original report be better worded “depending on the proposed disuse…”
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#6
Well, the State/County has had 6 years since Billy's closed - and granted, let's give them a 2-year discount due to COVID, so it's sat for four years, numerous fires, squatters, etc. etc., and let's remember, it was abruptly closed due primarily because of asbestos contamination.

No one stepping forward to buy it or re-develop it.

Typically, these types of demolition projects allow the contractor/developer to be able to recover some monies from "precious metals" such as copper plumbing & wiring, support steel etc., of which I am sure by now has pretty much been stolen - leaving any potential buyer just inheriting the god-awful mess of hazardous contaminants inside that place. 

In the end, I guess flattened land is still better than what it is right now.
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#7
I guess since law enforcement is powerless is evict squatters here it's just easier to demolish the building.
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#8
Although not as large, and having significant differences in ownership, etc......

The old theater with a huge hole in the roof/ceiling and pretty much falling down, in Naalehu, was demolished in one day, then cleaned up within a couple more. Doesn't seem THAT hard to bulldoze Uncle Billy's and clean it up.

Then again, I too think it's going to be a pile of rubble for a long time.

As for asbestos, that's a hot potato nobody wants to touch. This is a fun story:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/f...-materials
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#9
This clip from the Simpsons sums up the issue:

Martin playing the role of the people and Bart playing the role of the County and State

https://youtu.be/ykm3GI1oTnQ
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#10
"No one stepping forward to buy it or re-develop it."

AFAIK, the state hasn't made it available for lease or purchase. The reason Uncle Billys walked away from it was the state would only put them on a "month to month" lease. No hotel operator in their right mind is going to invest in maintenance on a property when they don't know if their lease will be renewed in a few days. If a toilet broke or somebody puked on the carpet or whatever, they just locked the door and stopped renting out that room. They continued that strategy until the building was unusable.
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