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2025 Hurricane Season
#11
From Alt National Park Service on Bluesky:

The acting head of FEMA, a Trump appointee, told staff today he didn’t know the U.S. has a hurricane season. FEMA is dangerously unprepared this year.


Staff of the Federal Emergency Management Agency were confused and dispirited on Monday after the acting head of the agency said during a daily briefing that he had not been aware the country has a hurricane season, according to three sources familiar with the meeting.

Residents in hurricane season areas were probably even more confused and dispirited, wondering if any help will be available for them if needed.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fema-head-w...ne-season/
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#12
It was a joke and you fell for it....

"...A Department of Homeland Security spokesperson later suggested the comment wasn't serious.

"Despite meanspirited attempts to falsely frame a joke as policy, there is no uncertainty about what FEMA will be doing this Hurricane Season. FEMA is laser focused on disaster response, and protecting the American people," the spokesperson said..."
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#13
(06-03-2025, 06:16 PM)leilanidude Wrote: It was a joke and you fell for it....

Methinks you're defending the indefensible.. sorta like saying the guys that ran the trains to Auschwitz were innocent.. 'hey they only drove the trains..'
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#14
It was a joke and you fell for it....

Sure. In a long line of “jokes” from severely unqualified jokers.
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#15
It had to be a joke. I don't believe any adult in the US wouldn't be aware of hurricane season. I'd still like to know the context-what prompted the comment.
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#16
We have our first:

Two tropical systems are intensifying in the Eastern Pacific, with one now officially the first hurricane of the season, according to the National Hurricane Center in Miami.

Hurricane Barbara strengthened into a Category 1 storm early this morning, with sustained winds of 75 mph. At 4 a.m. Hawaii time, the system was located about 155 miles southwest of Manzanillo, Mexico, and moving northwest at 10 mph. While no coastal watches or warnings are currently in effect, forecasters say Barbara could strengthen slightly through the day before beginning to weaken on Tuesday.

Swells generated by Barbara are expected to affect portions of southwestern Mexico over the next several days, potentially creating life-threatening surf and rip current conditions, the NHC warned.

Meanwhile, Tropical Storm Cosme is also intensifying and is forecast to become a hurricane later today. Located about 620 miles south-southwest of the southern tip of Baja California at 4 a.m. Hawaii time, Cosme is moving west-northwest at 6 mph with maximum sustained winds of 65 mph. A turn to the north is expected by tonight, followed by a faster motion to the north-northeast Tuesday through Wednesday.

Cosme is not currently a threat to land and no warnings are in place, but forecasters expect it to rapidly weaken by midweek.

Both systems are being closely monitored, but early forecasts suggest neither poses a threat to Hawaii.

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2025/06/0...rengthens/
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#17
A critical part of the US hurricane tracking system was deactivated recently.  The DMSP satellites used infrared to penetrate cloud cover which provided data not available by any other means.  In a polar orbit, they passed over Hawaii so were a part of Central Pacific forecasts.  The satellites are still functional.  They also monitored Arctic and Antarctic ice, so probably the real reason their data collection was halted. 

There are multiple news stories about how this will impact hurricane forecasts, immediately, and reduce the accuracy of our forecasts.

A critical US atmospheric data collection program will be halted by Monday, giving weather forecasters just days to prepare, according to a public notice sent this week. Scientists that the Guardian spoke with say the change could set hurricane forecasting back “decades”, just as this year’s season ramps up.

In a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa) message sent on Wednesday to its scientists, the agency said that “due to recent service changes” the Defense Meteorological Satellite Program (DMSP) will “discontinue ingest, processing and distribution of all DMSP data no later than June 30, 2025”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025...ng-climate
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#18
Here's another article discussing the above that seems a bit more informative. The stated concern with status quo is said to be a "cyberattack".

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurricane-f...noaa-says/

"...NOAA spokesperson Kim Doster called it a "routine process of data rotation and replacement" in a statement to CBS News on Monday, adding that remaining data sources remaining "are fully capable of providing a complete suite of cutting-edge data and models that ensure the gold-standard weather forecasting the American people deserve."...

..Former NOAA administrator Rick Spinrad, who served in that role during the Biden administration, told CBS News in an email that "there's no logical explanation" for the cutoff, "other than some downstream benefit to the private sector" — which would align with goals outlined in Project 2025 to move toward privatizing NOAA and the Weather Service. Losing that data puts the agency's current capabilities at risk, Spinrad said, especially during hurricane season.

"NWS is working feverishly to start using other data from a satellite DoD launched last year," he added. "This is ill-timed, poorly planned, and dangerous."
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#19
ECMWF is a Punaweb favorite tracking model, here is one way their forecasts will be affected by the loss of DMSP data, from a Gemini inquiry:

The European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts (ECMWF) utilizes data from the Defense Meteorological Satellite Program (DMSP), particularly its microwave imagers like SSM/I and SSMIS, for weather forecasting and climate monitoring. DMSP data, including nighttime brightness data, helps ECMWF improve its models by providing valuable information about atmospheric conditions, particularly regarding water vapor, cloud and precipitation. While DMSP data is not assimilated in real-time, it's used for independent validation of ECMWF's operational analyses, especially concerning humidity. However, it's worth noting that DMSP satellite data processing is being discontinued by the Department of Defense, with all data products ceasing by June 30, 2025.

Several sources I read stated that the microwave sensors on DMSP were particularly useful at night, as they detect changes in hurricane intensity when it’s dark, something other satellites can’t do.  This significantly improved first-in-the-morning models. 

Thanks to harryd for introducing Punaweb to ECMWF (https://punaweb.org/forum/showthread.php?tid=14980&pid=14980&highlight=ECMWF#pid14980)
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#20
I can't wait for one of our diehards to explain why this change is a good thing for Hawaii.
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