03-03-2007, 04:34 PM
I think I know what a malcontent is, I'm think i may be one of them, but what are C.A.V.E people? Just wanted to know? Could i have that affliction too?
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03-03-2007, 05:58 PM
quote: no anger behind my statement just the truth. Next time you're on Oahu ask around wassup with these people. Eight yrs ago I tired to get my son on Quest when I needed the help briefly. The case worker who interviewed me said that Quest was heavily over burden by outsiders coming in and taking advantge. Upon leaving Quest, I saw 80% of the people waiting in the lobby weren't local at all either. What will our state do when welfare runs out on these people? Momi I'm less angry with these people than you are with "haole boy" "lol" I see a lot more than you because my eyes are trained for it Momi. As a Waikiki Beachboy me and my fellow workers always kept an eye on the tourist & the beach. Anything happend to them, it would in directly effect me and my co-worker & our families! Surely you can understand that? Trust me on this, at one point even the Big Island will become like Oahu with concerns to this group of people living here. I think on Oahu the hatred towards this group of people by locals is because these people have come in and have exhausted all the resources put forth for the needy residents of Oahu. I do need to make one thing perfectly clear. I don't mean to generalize this race of people. There are bad eggs in all races that's for sure. As for being a racist. I'd like to think I'm not. But I think we all are to an extent whether we wanna admit it or not, especially if we single out a race like I did here. Sure it's my bad, but it's a honest observation as far I see it. In a perfect world, we'd all get along ,but unfortunately it's not a perfect world is it? Sorry if I offended anybody, that truly wasn't my intention all when I first made this thread. Again sorry to all you that I offended.. Edited by - beachboy on 03/04/2007 13:59:52
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03-03-2007, 10:56 PM
C. A. V. E. = Citizens Against Virtually Everything.
Mr. Jim Wilson, former editor of the Hilo Hawaii Tribune-Herald used to use it about anti-geothermal activists, etc. I do not know if he made up the term or just adopted it. Allen Baton Rouge, LA & HPP
Allen
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03-04-2007, 10:34 PM
I just got back from an R&R weekend and would like to publicly say ALOHA to EVERYONE here!
 Aloha Richwhiteboy "I hate quotations. Tell me what you know." --Ralph Waldo Emerson
“Sometimes the truth hurts. And sometimes it feels real good.”
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03-05-2007, 01:05 PM
Okay, Beachboy. I can see where you are coming from now and I agree with that and by the way, I did grow up on O`ahu in Kane`ohe and I see the impact of the population vs. ecosystem and that is why I am adament on keeping Puna, Puna but that is not the case. Puna is growing and it is inevitable but it would be good to make others aware of things. The influx of immigrants "are" creating an impact and yes alot of people are unable to qualify for quest while others are. Yes, I have to agree on that but I don't really like you telling Hawaiians to give cracks to people. I have a problem with that. Haole boy deserved to know what his name meant and I'm not backing down on it. If he wants to change his attitude then I would forgive him but not change my mind about when I choose to use the word or not. It's really offensive when people try to throw our own culture in our face, cause then I will have to comment from the truth and if the truth hurts, don't use Hawaiian words offensively or think you can decide when I should use a Hawaiian word or not. Only I decide that. I'm not angry at all but very protective of my culture.
Edited by - momi on 03/05/2007 17:25:41
03-05-2007, 01:53 PM
Have a nice day, Momi!
Aloha Richwhiteboy “Open your arms to change, but don't let go of your values.” - Dalai Lama
“Sometimes the truth hurts. And sometimes it feels real good.”
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03-05-2007, 04:01 PM
I seriously doubt there are many true C. A. V. E. = Citizens Against Virtually Everything, as I suspect they aren't against things that benefit them.
We are lucky to have H.A.C.K.S. = Haoles Advocating Californicating Kona Side. LOL David Ninole Resident
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03-05-2007, 10:03 PM
And a Happy New Year to you, Momi!
Aloha Richwhiteboy "I bought a perfect second car ... a tow truck."- Rodney Dangerfield
“Sometimes the truth hurts. And sometimes it feels real good.”
- Henry Rollins
03-06-2007, 01:28 AM
quote: I agree with your response 100% . Momi, I gotta tell you, when I said about going after one race I meant it in a joking manner! I know I should have responded sooner in trying to put out the fire that followed after my comments...."my bad"! I now realized I unearthed a real sensitive issue with this thread. You gotta admit when a place becomes almost over populated, and the influx of Malahini don't try to learn the host country's culture or values, but has a hand in draining their resources they become a burden. Some people sit back and only grumble about it. But then there are a few who react to it too. My reaction was solely verbally, but with others it could be different. Growing up in Lahaina during the 60's & 70's I watched as the white folk invaded in masses, bringing with them their good and their bad. I had a choice except, and try to educate these new arrivals about the 'aina', or move on. I elected to move on. With Puna, I have come full circle, and it couldn't be done for me without my years on the beach at Waikiki. I learned how a lot of mainlanders think and it helped me with my anger towards feeling being run out of my home(Lahaina). I was reading the other day someone's link about "crap",going down in the Volcano area. Once again the Malahini coming in trying to impose their will on the local folk...yikes, it actually hurt..inside reading that!
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