Cave relics

[malolo]

Ho'oponopono

Daily, La zips across the sky oblivious to the pain
the two of us manage to inflict again and again and again.

Greenflash/disappearance/aquacrash and whip-'round-the-world return:
a clarion call, a rock-to-the-head, a lesson we fail to learn.

I skip 'ili'ili across the cove. Insidious thoughts, Kapu!
Sink quick to the seafloor -- aqua-bridge -- the gulf between me and you.

[Momi]

The real meaning of ho`oponopono is to make things right with out placing blame on either side but to let them work it out through communication. There is no failure in communication.

[malolo]

Mmmm. Yes. My point exactly.
(...albeit in my oblique and oddball style!)

But you said it far more eloquently.
Thank you.

[adias]

Moni,

Thank you for your description of ho'oponopono, this is something I can use more of in my own life; your honesty and candor refreshing. I welcome a chance to see things from your perspective to better my own understanding.

[Momi]

Thanks Adias and Malolo,
I really appreciate it. I try to use ho`oponopono especially when I work with kids. It's a form of mediation when this occurs and it is such a beautiful thing. In the end, the kids solve their own problems and I'm just there to make sure it doesn't get blown out of proportion.
Hi Carie,
I don't understand you. You said you don't see any bad in my posts but you point out provocativity, racism, preaching, all negative words that would provoke a normal local to anger but I'm not angry at you. hmmmm... That's contradicting your own words.... Maybe someday you will except the Hawaiian culture and life in Hawaii for what it is good and bad. I respect your posts because I believe if we talk about it, we will come to some understanding eventually....maybe not today. Thanks Malolo and Adias for "getting it" I really appreciate your open hearts and open minds cause that is why you "got it".
To keep this thread on subject, just cause I said foreigners doesn't mean I mean all non hawaiians, I'm talking about people who are planning to move here. I want to educate them before the make the move so they are aware of things. That's all. I posted the article so people will know that they shouldn't touch things in caves and thanks alot to the person who posted the cave article in HPP. If you ever find bones on your property, it might be good to report it, that way you will know if it is old or new. If it is old, it is protected by the Federal Government. Yay, one good thing about the Feds. Problem is, they can't be there to make sure the burials are not looted as done so much in the past. Unfortunately, for Carta and Taylor, they had to learn the hard way and fate took over. They did feel remorse but it came a little too late. I wish them no ill will. In fact, I feel real sorry for them but I'm not in control of their fate. What Eddie Ayau said in the article is true. He's seen it first hand. The story of my great grandfather is just another example.









Edited by - momi on 03/08/2007 06:40:07

[Momi]

Hi Carrie,

No offense taken at all. Maybe calling attention to the differences and crossing lines can eventually open the doors to understanding. I think haole boy changing his attitude with me is a good example of that. I think haole boy is on the road to "getting it". I wouldn't want you to change your ancestors and I appreciate "all" my ancestors Hawaiian and not. I made clarity to my statement of "foreigners". If you didn't point out that it offended you, I would not know this. I didn't mean it to be offensive. Now, if I used the derogatory word for foreigners, then I could see it offending alot of people.

The earth is big Carrie but my world consist currently of what is on this island which is I think the base focus for Puna web. Depleted resources from overpopulation, people taking educational posts in a negative way, etc.... The only way to learn to live together is to have an understanding of what is on this island, especially for the people moving here. If we didn't point out all of those points, more people might take my posts like you but hopefully, I won't have to repeat myself again on my whole mana`o on foreigners vs. environment vs.lifestyles vs. changes in lifestyles.






Edited by - momi on 03/08/2007 07:07:22

[loffelkopffl]

i'll throw in my two cents, i believe once your body is dead, it's dead. bones are just bones and nothing more. i realize many people(most?)cherish, worship, etc.(dead) bones, so i respect that and if i come across any i'll leave them alone. on a lighter note, foreigner is coming to town.

[Momi]

Hi loff,

Thanks. Are you talking about Foreigner the rock band or foreigner people?

[mamoahina]

The whole concept of na kanaka being foreigners or newcomers have been used only to justify the crap that has happened in recent decades. Keep in mind that our ancestors didn't come here to profit. They learned to live in harmony with nature. This is not limited to kanaka by the way but you'll see this evident in many other indigenous cultures. Capitalism was a foreign concept.

Then the issue of "Hawaii is my home...." nonesense. Well, it was my father's home too. He was born on Maui and raised on Molokai, and therefore the islands is his home. But he doesn't go off on 'Oiwi and say that he has a claim on these lands as equally as na 'Oiwi. This is "our" (ko makou) kulaiwi, the iwi of our kupuna have been here for centuries. Not ka 'oukou kulaiwi. The English language cannot specify what "home" really is.

[Momi]

Mahalo Mamo,

You know my little son defined something for me before he went to school this morning.

"Loa`a ka mana, iloko kamana`o"
"There is power in knowledge"

I just love that little guy! Thanks Hoku...