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Volcano acting up
#71
Another fun thing to try if you have Google Earth is to make an image overlay with the lava map. You can see just how close the flow is to Black Sand subdivision.



Edited by - bystander on 08/08/2007 13:19:41
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#72
WOW! Thank you, Tahunatics! That is what I kept trying to find - an overlay - to see where it is in relation to the subdivisions.
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#73
I live in Black sand Beach subdivision and am following the currant phase with interest. A large glowing area is visable most nights just over the horizon. There's a 2000' cindercone (Heiheiahulu)directly between us and the flow, which I think could divert it either north or south around us. Relatives on the mainland have wondered for years how we could live on the rift zone of an active volcano. These same relatives are a few miles from the San Andreas fault in California, so go figure. Thanks for the map overlays, please keep them coming.

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#74
Great maps, thanks! What on earth would happen if it did cross 130, and say, kept on flowing in that area? That seems almost a bigger catastrophe than flowing over a small neighborhood. Would everyone in lower Puna be trapped? Given how long it has taken to get new roads in Kona, does the county have some plan for rapidly creating new roads if this were to happen?

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#75
Plan? What plan? We are talking about the County of Hawaii here. They have to know something like this is possible, but they are not very good on either rapid response or planning. The State highway plan for Puna doesn't call for any serious improvements (if you want to call them that) until 2012 or so, and they are now saying the funding is in question for even that.

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#76
Realistically, it would take a relatively minor amount of work to get the Government Beach Road (going Northwest from Hawaiian Shores to HPP) to a driveable state. Just lots of gravel, mostly, and a little bit of grading here or there. They could probably do some emergency fix-up on that section in within a couple days. Of course, approving the red tape for even that might take until 2012 as well... (boo on red tape!)

Glenn
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#77
IF the lava were to come down and take out 130... Gotta remember it moves pretty slow so I think most could get out by the time it reached the highway. No one really knows where it's gonna go but to me it doesn't look like it's gonna hit HPP, I'd say more like Pahoa or Hawaiian beaches. Just seems to me that it would flow that way since... I doesn't look like it would want to go uphill.

From the earthquakes to lava flows. That's one of the joys in living here! Smile

As for the state having a plan? If it was honolulu yeah... There would be a plan. But this is puna. I'm sure Harry Kim would want to get some pictures for PR and that would be about as much planning as they would do around here.

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#78
How about dropping some cold ocean water on the north flank to creat a higher wall then the south?

If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it cost when it’s free...now here come the taxes.....
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#79
Don't think trying to dam it is going to do much good, at least based on the 1960 flow around Kapoho. See the following site for some sobering pictures.

Olin

http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/kilauea/history/1960Jan13/

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#80
it's funny how everyone seems to be trashing hawaii county civil defense for not having a "plan". has anyone contacted them to find out? lol! one thing i first noticed when i first moved here was how the civil defense is always keeping us informed on even the smallest matters that may affect us........

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