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When I started this topic, I really had no idea that it would still be active. I find nearly everything on here totally hilarious.
However got to call out a few:
"he seemed genuinely sorry...."
Uh, if you were now known as the guy who would prefer to use the N word freely and regularly than have your son (who has been in jail for years) come live near you because his black girlfriend will also be coming too-uh, not a prize in my opinion.
He can cry all day long. He could even mean it. It doesn't change what one feels about others deep down inside. This guy even acts like he is the new Jesus Christ on his show!
K, for Rob Punaweb moderator-your post made me laugh. Kind of like opening a door to a dirty house, huh? LOL.
"I feel compassion for Dog because I think he tries to be a good father and human being."
A good father doesn't tell his son who is just out of prison for serious felonies who needs his support that he should not come to live with him (unlike the remainder of his uh, litter?) until he gets himself back on his feet because he is dating a black girl. The one thing I think you also don't understand is that he is arresting these people. He isn't having them resign a loan application. He isn't doing anyone a favor-except (and this is debatable if you think about the health risks) for giving them a smoke in the car while in cuffs and a speach about how they should be better for their kids' sake. He is getting his money back by putting the person in jail.
I get your intent, but you are missing out on some points. Also, is he a Christian, really? Boy, I sure hope not. I wouldn't want him representing my faith.
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Julie,
I saw a very few minutes of Dog's interview with Hannity last night. He did seem to have genuine remorse. He fully admits being wrong. If he understands he was wrong and has remorse, isn't that a huge part of changing.
From what is seen on the show, Dog isn't my idea of the ideal father. His young ones seem to be developing into disresptful brats. Dog does seem to care and try in his own way and his fathering skills are better than what a lot of kids get. He admits screwing up on the issue with his son and girlfriend. It certainily appears he was a worse father in his past than he is now.
Of course being a bondsman and bounty humter is a profit making venture. When he preaches to his arrestees he is speaking to them on their level and some appear to listen. If only one changes, due in part to his preaching, then it is worth it. If they are smokers, who cares if they have one more smoke before going to jail, where they can't smoke.
I'm no expert on religion or Christian dogma, but my understanding on Christianity is that it was provided as an answer to Man's inability to be perfect. Dog certainily is not perfect, nor am I. Due to Man's inabilities to achieve perfection, or anything close, Christ, his sacrifice, and grace were provided. I don't see Dog's failures as a reflection of Christianity. I see his failures as excellent examples of Man's weaknesses. Dog does seem to try, at least sometimes. We can't all be saints.
It would appear that in your view there is no redemption for Dog and he must now go and end it all.
Cheers,
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
Edited by - oink on 11/09/2007 03:36:47
Edited by - oink on 11/09/2007 08:40:50
Pua`a
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I also believe Dog to be sincerely remorseful. Dog's long-time friend and spirtual advisor, Pastor Tim Storey, is African-American. The pastor is seen often on the show at the Chapman's home and performed Dog and Beth's wedding. This points to Dog not being inherently rascist, but rather, a foul-mouthed, ill-informed man. There is NO place for that kind of language in our society and Dog seems to know that now...
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One thing stands out for me in reading this thread:
People's responses speak volumes about the speaker (writer). None of them tell us a thing about Dog Chapman, a man unknown to any of us, personally. But how each and every one of us interpret and feel about the situation informs me about the character of every individual who has commented here. Very interesting. It's like a Rorschach test.
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"Asking someone to use a different word is hardly CENSORING. It was a request. He can say, nah, I like it and am going to keep it that way. If you had read further down, I also explained this further by stating that I kind of enjoy the aloha and mahalo's we use here as this is my little Hawaii away from home.
So, although it seems as though you are picking out items to start arguments about?I love to be kind to others, and have recently left a message to the entire Punaweb community regarding how we treat each other even when we disagree. With aloha."
Julie, it is always inappropriate to ask a person to change the way they talk or write just to suit you and your personal needs. There are others on this forum, just as there are other people in the world. It is good to be aware of this, so you don't forget that the world is not there just to suit your own whims.
You might consider unburdening yourself of the sense that you need to control what other people say to make your experience here more Hawaiian. It's already Hawaiian. Hawaii is what it is because of its live-and-let-live ethos, not because of a few letters strung together that spell "aloha". Aloha means love, which means we don't just tolerate someone saying "cheers", we appreciate that person and the uniqueness they bring to our world and we also find a way to thank them for the fun they bring into our lives. Asking someone to mouth the words "aloha" or "mahalo" just to suit you is sort of the anti-aloha.
What if everybody in the world changed how they talked and only used Julie-approved salutations? Would that really be a happy place of aloha? Do you remember the story of King Midas, and how he wished everything he touched would turn to gold? How different is that from a world where Julie got her wish and no one could ever say anything but what Julie wanted?
People have been so patient and diplomatic in their attempt to express this to you. That should be all the proof you need that this board is the real Hawaii.
Mahalo, Mike
(Edited for more aloha.)
Edited by - Michael K on 11/09/2007 14:09:38
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Interesting that someone would use this forum as a personality test. Is that what happens in "real life?" I mean, it all comes down to it being your opinion after all.
I like this forum and the lion's share of the people on it have been generous and funny. Levity is a medical requirement for me these days, so I don't mind a little Vaudeville every now and again!!!
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If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion. ~Dalai Lama
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Michael K,
Bravo to you for writing that so perfect.
I thought that was so strange a request to ask another person to change their salutation just to satisfy their own thinking. Just plain weird.
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Michael K,
Yes, thank you so much. I wish I could have said it so well. I've been trying to come up with a response for days, but couldn't come up with a way that was helpful and respectful. Thank you for doing so.
 Erin
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Michael K..mahalo for your wise words..
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quote:
"Asking someone to use a different word is hardly CENSORING. It was a request. He can say, nah, I like it and am going to keep it that way. If you had read further down, I also explained this further by stating that I kind of enjoy the aloha and mahalo's we use here as this is my little Hawaii away from home.
So, although it seems as though you are picking out items to start arguments about?I love to be kind to others, and have recently left a message to the entire Punaweb community regarding how we treat each other even when we disagree. With aloha."
Julie, it is always inappropriate to ask a person to change the way they talk or write just to suit you and your personal needs. There are others on this forum, just as there are other people in the world. It is good to be aware of this, so you don't forget that the world is not there just to suit your own whims.
You might consider unburdening yourself of the sense that you need to control what other people say to make your experience here more Hawaiian. It's already Hawaiian. Hawaii is what it is because of its live-and-let-live ethos, not because of a few letters strung together that spell "aloha". Aloha means love, which means we don't just tolerate someone saying "cheers", we appreciate that person and the uniqueness they bring to our world and we also find a way to thank them for the fun they bring into our lives. Asking someone to mouth the words "aloha" or "mahalo" just to suit you is sort of the anti-aloha.
What if everybody in the world changed how they talked and only used Julie-approved salutations? Would that really be a happy place of aloha? Do you remember the story of King Midas, and how he wished everything he touched would turn to gold? How different is that from a world where Julie got her wish and no one could ever say anything but what Julie wanted?
People have been so patient and diplomatic in their attempt to express this to you. That should be all the proof you need that this board is the real Hawaii.
Mahalo, Mike
(Edited for more aloha.)
Edited by - Michael K on 11/09/2007 14:09:38
You definately disprooved your "live and let others live" line by this ridiculous rant.
You are acting like I have mentioned this to multiple people or something. This really is not a big deal at all, as I mentioned to the person in a follow up how unimportant and silly it was, and I even made fun of myself by saying that it doesn't make sense why I dislike it. If someone mentioned to me what I did to him, I would have laughed and said, ok, no problem. Why? It is just a word. The fact that you had to edit yourself "for more aloha" and this was what was produced-is quite frightening. I wonder what the previous posting was! Do not address me further please as I just want to be able to come onto a website, enjoy others postings and have others enjoy mine. If you don't enjoy mine-skip over my name in the future. Mahalo and aloha.
To anyone else I have offended: Please do not make this thread or any part of this wonderful site about this posting. I like this site and didn't mean to offend you. Mahalo.
Edited by - nanawalejulie on 11/09/2007 22:49:19
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