Careers for young people on the East Side

[Rob Tucker]

The only economy I've seen that is immune from economic downturns is government. Washington D.C. never has layoffs.

[Guest]

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The only economy I've seen that is immune from economic downturns is government. Washington D.C. never has layoffs.

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Well the government here in Hawaii is a bit different.

I've known people to get laid off from government jobs.

Many people working government jobs are only in "Temporary Positions" I know of some people that have been in Temporary Government positions and they just get "Re-hired" each year as Emergency Hires. I don't know the exact percentage, but I would say at least 1 in 20 government workers is only on a Temporary contract.

And even now, if you are a recent hire of the State government, you still have to pay 50% of your own insurance premiums. For the family plan it's over $300.00 that comes directly out of your paycheck.

There are only so many government jobs and it's not likely that they will increase the number of government jobs at the pace that the islands population is growing.

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[Rob Tucker]

Damon, My point is that, generally, unless you work for the Feds and live in or around Washington DC there is no recession proof industry. All business sectors, like life itself, have ups and downs.

[james weatherford]

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The only economy I've seen that is immune from economic downturns is government. Washington D.C. never has layoffs.

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people to get laid off from government jobs.
...people working government jobs are only in "Temporary Positions"

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It is indeed a myth that government employees never get laid off. During the Grand Reagan Recession circa 1982/1983, things changed. The 'temporaries' et al.
Also, big time, "The Outside Expert" (aka, a bureaucrat who had been laid off and was now running a private consulting firm doing what he did before he got laid off.
And, in 2008, don't get me started on failed outsourcing of local government policy and planning.

...I digress...

James Weatherford, Ph.D.
15-1888 Hialoa
Hawaiian Paradise Park

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Damon, My point is that, generally, unless you work for the Feds and live in or around Washington DC there is no recession proof industry. All business sectors, like life istelf, have ups and downs.

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How about Litigation Lawyers j/k

But seriously I would hope Health Care and Education are two industries that are recession proof.

It seems like were always looking for Doctors, Nurses and Educators.

The problem is that those all require the education. This is why I first stated let's give away college tuition.

If we first understand that an educated "society" can give more back to the area then an uneducated society. It's a sociological problem that probably will never be completely understood.

So I will say it again, free education for people that are legal residents of the State. Supplement that education cost between two tiers of students. One for US residents that wish to attend a UH College and one for Non-US Residents or the so called "F.O.B's".

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[james weatherford]

Not sure about F.O.B.'s ??

Free university? Yep, for sure.
Anybody in Hawaii who can demonstrate -- before enrollment and throughout attendance -- that they can do the work, should be able to attend the UH campus nearest to their legal residence, no tuition, no loans. The best financial aid ever is Work-Study -- up to 20 hours a week on campus doing basic stuff that keeps the place operating day to day.

James Weatherford, Ph.D.
15-1888 Hialoa
Hawaiian Paradise Park

[Kapohocat]

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Free university? Yep, for sure.
Anybody in Hawaii who can demonstrate -- before enrollment and throughout attendance -- that they can do the work, should be able to attend the UH campus nearest to their legal residence, no tuition, no loans. The best financial aid ever is Work-Study -- up to 20 hours a week on campus doing basic stuff that keeps the place operating day to day....

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Great idea. I think California has a student loan repayment program for teachers - for each year you work in a california school they pay a part of yoru exisiting student loan. Maybe this is an urban myth but it does have some merit as an idea.

Since we have a hard time retaining qualified medical personnel - what about college & grad school loan credits for doctors and nurses who stay a minimum of 5 years in a clinic practice? Both of those professions make some decent cash.

[james weatherford]

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...student loan repayment program for teachers..."

"... medical personnel...credits for doctors and nurses who stay a minimum of 5 years in a clinic practice..."

In various places there are enticements such as the above for medical personnel, and, I believe, for teachers.

dunno what Hawaii does.

James Weatherford, Ph.D.
15-1888 Hialoa
Hawaiian Paradise Park

[Green]

If our government would raise the minimum wage to at least $10 an hr., and provide universal health care, child care, eldercare, like is done in many european and other industrialized countries, that would be a beginning. How about free college education ? Oh, but then we might have to quit invading and occuping other nations for a while ! Scratch that !

[Carey]

UH has some very good scholarships & work study programs....besides the University is VERY reasonable, 20 hours of University of the least paying work would more than cover the tuition.... VERY, VERY reasonable tuition!
There are also many programs for repayment of tuition...
Hubby also added some career ideas:
welder $30-$65/hr
sheet metal $25+/hr
electrician $30+/hr
(all positions are in demand)
all of these have certification courses at HCC... As close as Puna is to the University system, it is very posible to get on track with good paying positions... and the tuition! the deal of the Island!