04-04-2009, 11:30 PM
Aloha Ka Kou,
Aaron Stene seems to feel it is necessary to go after me. I know he wants to fight the Sovereignty movement and I guess he feels he can use any tactics that he wants. I like a good debate! when I can answer hard questions it makes me better in my work.
So I have tried to answer these approaches with a blog that just posts Aaron Stenes blogs so people can answer his posts. Well it only pissed the FBI bloggers off and no one else cares [rightly so]
So below is my answer to them. but my question is can we find solutions to these ridiculous wastes of time? Do we get an arbitrator so attacks can be answered? or does free speech mean we just ignore stupidity even though accusations sit on the web when you google someone? Don't forget those misstatements might form opinions on who someone is?
http://aaronsteneanswered.blogspot.com/
From the Kona Blog
Why is it Damon, RJ and Aaron you never address why this blog exists?
DaMON SAYS:
It's very counter productive.
RJ SAYS:
Are you sure that this is the best way to counter Aaron?
Anonymous: [probably Aaron Stene] It doesn't get much more asinine than this!
Kai: I have got to agree and that is some of your best commentary yet!
First of all you have supported Aaron Stene's unfounded attacks on me. I find it interesting it does not bother you the tactics he uses. I put this blog together a while back when Aaron was making claims about me and then not posting my answers. Including claiming I wasn't answering him. So I posted them on Ma'oli world and I let him post without edit!
What did you do then? Did you say Come on Aaron. if you go after someone you should give them a chance to answer? No,You attacked me for posting the forum on Ma'oli world! Damon attacked me for posting "Aaron Stene declares war on the sovereignty movement" OK that was a little harsh but I backed up what I said with this quote.
Aaron- In a way I do oppose the Hawaiian sovereignty movement. I don’t think its right to forcibly try to to reverse the clock
back to before 1893. As you are aware a lot has changed here, for better and worse, over the last century. In other words its
too late to change things back.On that note, I would fight any attempt to return the monarchy.
That's pretty harsh too and he has to take his cracks if he's going to make public statements like that. perhaps you guys can not see the full measure of colonialism and hate that lies in that statement. It is not even the fighting words, but the "Reverse the Clock" because that is filled with the propagandist thinking of American oppression. I don't care where Aaron Stene was born [He claims to be a Kama'aina] he's an American and he is trashing my country! Nobody asked his opinion!
Does he have a right to his opinion? Sure he can do whatever he likes. But why does anyone in the world know about this blog? Because in an effort to provoke me Aaron Stene posted "Kai Landow strikes again" and put a link to this blog which has sat fallow until and unless he starts this stupidity again!
http://aaronsteneanswered.blogspot.com/
Do you have any criticism for Aaron coming into a Charlie Foster's blog in which an intelligent discourse was going on. We didn't agree but there was a polite thoughtful back and forth. I do not know which of you is "ManaWai" but you know who you are. His post where there to disrupt and if I wanted to continue to argue Conklin's revisionist history then I would have continued to blog with him.
At the core of this is an interesting problem. Bullying people on blogs is an effective way in ending debate. I was happy to answer you guys and I answered RJ. I think RJ and I can reach an understanding, though I continue to be disappointed that he doesn't repudiate the tactics of Aaron Stene.
I do publicly apologize for anyone in my government who opposes the right of Gays and Lesbians and I personally fully support their equal rights and right to marriage.
So what is your motivation? I can only think Ululani is right and you seek ratings, because it is a hit and run style [not RJ]. So what is fair for me to do in response?
I still wait for you to address these issues. why do you avoid answering this point? I would point out that I wasn't attacking Aaron in this blog [just posting it] and what is the injury here. Do you think he might suffer if people have a chance to answer his pontificating?
OK you can criticize me, can you create solutions? I doubt it. So what Damon is productive? But I will in your absence of your positive suggestions.
I will cease this Blog when you simply agree to at least post all replies by the people you go after, simple Yes?
Fair? Yes!
Kai Landow
Aaron Stene seems to feel it is necessary to go after me. I know he wants to fight the Sovereignty movement and I guess he feels he can use any tactics that he wants. I like a good debate! when I can answer hard questions it makes me better in my work.
So I have tried to answer these approaches with a blog that just posts Aaron Stenes blogs so people can answer his posts. Well it only pissed the FBI bloggers off and no one else cares [rightly so]
So below is my answer to them. but my question is can we find solutions to these ridiculous wastes of time? Do we get an arbitrator so attacks can be answered? or does free speech mean we just ignore stupidity even though accusations sit on the web when you google someone? Don't forget those misstatements might form opinions on who someone is?
http://aaronsteneanswered.blogspot.com/
From the Kona Blog
Why is it Damon, RJ and Aaron you never address why this blog exists?
DaMON SAYS:
It's very counter productive.
RJ SAYS:
Are you sure that this is the best way to counter Aaron?
Anonymous: [probably Aaron Stene] It doesn't get much more asinine than this!
Kai: I have got to agree and that is some of your best commentary yet!
First of all you have supported Aaron Stene's unfounded attacks on me. I find it interesting it does not bother you the tactics he uses. I put this blog together a while back when Aaron was making claims about me and then not posting my answers. Including claiming I wasn't answering him. So I posted them on Ma'oli world and I let him post without edit!
What did you do then? Did you say Come on Aaron. if you go after someone you should give them a chance to answer? No,You attacked me for posting the forum on Ma'oli world! Damon attacked me for posting "Aaron Stene declares war on the sovereignty movement" OK that was a little harsh but I backed up what I said with this quote.
Aaron- In a way I do oppose the Hawaiian sovereignty movement. I don’t think its right to forcibly try to to reverse the clock
back to before 1893. As you are aware a lot has changed here, for better and worse, over the last century. In other words its
too late to change things back.On that note, I would fight any attempt to return the monarchy.
That's pretty harsh too and he has to take his cracks if he's going to make public statements like that. perhaps you guys can not see the full measure of colonialism and hate that lies in that statement. It is not even the fighting words, but the "Reverse the Clock" because that is filled with the propagandist thinking of American oppression. I don't care where Aaron Stene was born [He claims to be a Kama'aina] he's an American and he is trashing my country! Nobody asked his opinion!
Does he have a right to his opinion? Sure he can do whatever he likes. But why does anyone in the world know about this blog? Because in an effort to provoke me Aaron Stene posted "Kai Landow strikes again" and put a link to this blog which has sat fallow until and unless he starts this stupidity again!
http://aaronsteneanswered.blogspot.com/
Do you have any criticism for Aaron coming into a Charlie Foster's blog in which an intelligent discourse was going on. We didn't agree but there was a polite thoughtful back and forth. I do not know which of you is "ManaWai" but you know who you are. His post where there to disrupt and if I wanted to continue to argue Conklin's revisionist history then I would have continued to blog with him.
At the core of this is an interesting problem. Bullying people on blogs is an effective way in ending debate. I was happy to answer you guys and I answered RJ. I think RJ and I can reach an understanding, though I continue to be disappointed that he doesn't repudiate the tactics of Aaron Stene.
I do publicly apologize for anyone in my government who opposes the right of Gays and Lesbians and I personally fully support their equal rights and right to marriage.
So what is your motivation? I can only think Ululani is right and you seek ratings, because it is a hit and run style [not RJ]. So what is fair for me to do in response?
I still wait for you to address these issues. why do you avoid answering this point? I would point out that I wasn't attacking Aaron in this blog [just posting it] and what is the injury here. Do you think he might suffer if people have a chance to answer his pontificating?
OK you can criticize me, can you create solutions? I doubt it. So what Damon is productive? But I will in your absence of your positive suggestions.
I will cease this Blog when you simply agree to at least post all replies by the people you go after, simple Yes?
Fair? Yes!
Kai Landow