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We spotted a nice looking lot "on line" in the Waawaa subdivision.
Before we invest our time and money to look at this lot, we would like to get a little info., other than the realitor, about the subdivision. It looks as if the roads are unpaved and there is no power, water or telephone service. Are there road dues? Are there any CC&Rs in this subdivision? I doubt there is any mail service.
How about cell phone coverage? Does Government Road connect to Hawaiin Shores subdivision? Is this a less rain area than say, Pahoa? Any info. would be appreciated.
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No mail, rough (very 4WD) connection to Hawaiian Beaches/Park/Shores/HSRE. Part of the area has partial 1-lane paving to 4 corners (fun if a school bus is on the road!) Cell coverage spotty & depends on provider. Beautiful area, very quiet, secluded, most of the area is drier (coastal influence) Some areas within have more mosquitoes than others (based on frog surveys this summer(has frogs). Some lots are more pasture, some have smallish orchards (mainly guava, I think...) others are thick overgrowth.
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Well, I am a Realtor (not "the realitor" which I assume refers to the person with the listing) so I'll risk answering some of the questions.
No electricity, water, gas, sewer or anything in the area. If you want it, you either create it yourself (solar), gather it (water and...uh, I guess solar again) or haul it in. No telephone service, but most of the times that I've been down there, my AT&T/Cingular service worked surprisingly well. No road dues, no CC&Rs. Not just a "no" on the issue of mail service, but "are you freakin' ^##$ing me, hell, no" to mail service.
Yes, "Government Beach Road" (also known as Government Road, Old Government Road, Beach Road and, of course, Old Government Beach Road, as well as Wa'a Wa'a Road) does connect to Hawaiian Beaches and Shores on one side. It also connects to the Kapoho area on the other side. The two side roads (Pakaka and Sadilek) go up from Government Road about a mile or mile and a half and then dead end -- no connections to the outside world on those roads.
Carey is right about it being somewhat drier. It still gets good amounts of rain -- more than enough for everything to grow -- but it is drier than many areas at higher elevation.
Sounds like I don't like the place, huh? The truth is, I LOVE Wa'a Wa'a. Its special and magical and I love it. Its a rare treasure. If you mess it up, I will hunt you down and hurt you, Little Bill.
John Dirgo, R, ABR, e-PRO
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My impression of this area from just one visit: Absolutely gorgeous, at least when the coast comes into view. John showed me a beautiful off-grid house in this area (not quite Waa-Waa) and I thought it was the most amazing house I had ever seen. If you like isolation, you will love Waa Waa (I think it is really Wa'a Wa'a. Not sure). The roads are very, very rough. In a medical emergency, I would not want to be in Waa Waa. Some waterview homes in Waa Waa are breathtaking, and well turned out. On the mauka side of the Hawaii, the homes are tucked away --so I can't say much about them! I saw an enticing one bedroom off grid home mauka online(Kathy, did you look at that place?), but one look at the area, and I decided it was just too remote for me, because my current partner is a nurse and needs to have better accessibility to Hilo.
I understand there is an edgy form of farming taking place in the area. We need to support local agriculture. It is a great place to go if you are in the witness protection program.
Waa Waa is the very essence of Puna. But it is just too very Puna for some.
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John, the little [}  ] wanted me to post the same thing that you posted! I guess I am a chicken or [8] because I decided not to post anythig. Oh, BTW, I am not a "realitor" either! [:o)]
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Little bill if you dont mind me asking what are people asking for land out that way and the size of lots thanks[ ]
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I hope Little Bill realizes that I was just kidding around about the "realitor" thing -- its not like my spelling or word usage is anywhere near perfect.
John Dirgo, R, ABR, e-PRO
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John,
I`m more worried about the "hunt you down and hurt you" than the realitor thing. All jokes aside, thanks for the great info.. Sounds like a magical place.
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When John D took Marj and me around we looked at lots in Waa Waa. We did not buy because prices were far too high.... then. A lot 3+ acres was 200+K and that was too much for us for no amenities whatsoever, Still. we tromped around in the jungle there on a few lots and loved the place. The prices are down now to a more reasonable level. As low as 89K-- If we buy there we would really like one of the front lots on the shores (who wouldn't). But all of the lots share common access to the oceanfront. But it looked like it wasn't easy to access from the back lots. I personally was not put off by the poor roads and off grid aspect but then, Marj and I don't have to have jobs, so we don't need to be anywhere on a daily basis. Waa Waa....lovely, lovely place... A couple nice places are on the market right now... sigh.........
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Quick question...have you ever lived off-grid before? This area is definitely not your typical subdivision-with-services kind of place. A while back I attended a public meeting with the County on the subject of paving all or part of Govt.Beach Rd. Residents were allowed to give testimony, and an overwhelming number said they were against paving the road, believing that it would negatively impact their off-grid, rural way of life. The few people who were for paving stated that they were tired of having to repair their vehicles and wanted better access for emergency services. It looks like the non-pavers won out. Often I think the beauty of remote areas strikes a chord with folks and they move in without really thinking about how it is to be off-grid (without much power when it rains for 6 weeks straight) and a long, bumpy drive to the nearest anything for sale. This is definitely the kind of place where you would want to know and get along with your neighbors - (triple A might take days to get there for that jump start!) This part of Puna is really country and the people there seem to like it that way. There was a good thread about Wa'a wa'a a while back in which someone was considering buying a house there. A lot of good info in that one. Just my thoughts...
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Mitzi
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