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hi, I am a newbe, Ive been researching, the archives of puma web for a few months now,
My partner and i want to buy 3 acres and put a permitted yurt up, we are trying to find housing with the lowest impact on the enviroment, But I am having trouble finding any one else who has done this,to try to get as much info before we spend 15,000 on a yurt and another 10,000 to buy solar and wind, and around 40,000 for our land,
I am only 42 and really like the idea of not having a mortgage payment, and to be able to go work for someone else rather than having my own hair salon.
My biggest delema is my horse's I dont want to leave them behind, their my babies I pulled them from their mommas and did all the imprinting on theses two. I have heard so many horror stories about shipping by boat, that I dont think thats an option, I know of Pacific Air, but again I dont know if its worth the stress factor on the horse's to put them through it.
Can any one reffer me to a good hourse vet, so I can get more info. And if their is anyone who has made the dream of putting up a yurt and living in it a sucess any helpful info would be greatly appreciated... thanks
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We had the same idea as yours except for the horses. After extensive research we decided against the yurt for the following reasons. A decent yurt, large enough to live in, will cost around 20 large. This wont include the inside comforts, such as, kitchen, bathroom, electrical and pluming etc., figure 15K plus. Then you will need a deck to put it on, someone to build the deck and erect the yurt, another 10 to 15K. Dont forget the permits, sewage system and water supply, another 10 to 15K. We found that the water collected from a yurt treated with anti flame and mold chemicals would be hard, if not impossible, to make potable. Then there`s the solar system, these can run upwards of 20K or more.
Now if and when you go to sell it, you will need to find someone with cash as most lenders won`t lend money on a yurt.
We really loved the idea, however as an investment it looked pretty bad on paper. We decided that a small bungalo would work best for us,
now all we need is to sell our salon and find a nice lot.
Good luck on your adventure.
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I totally agree.I was trying to buy a yurt-no lenders.Construction loan on yurt-forget it.To insure-you are lucky to find the company and the premium wouldn't be reasonable.Permitting is very questionable.Technically possible.But I know the family who failed.And the one for sale was permitted as "other" (not residential).
In two words,putting a yurt is not much cheaper as to build the same size house,and with bigger insurance premiums in the long run could be the same.
But if you have friends to set a yurt together and your subdivision doesn't care about unpermitted structures it might make sense.
If you still decide to go for a yurt,talk to professional project managers who will spare you a lot of headache.
Talk to Kapohocat.She is a well respected member on this forum.And I heard she is very effective and reasonable.
(Find her post and click on the e-mail ).
Good luck!
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We have been in a couple of yurts of friends here, in Hawaiian Acres and HOVE. Even in Kau, there are ventilation issues with a yurt. The one in HA was on a raised deck, so the yurt was the second story. There was less ventilation problems, but that is because they had a full story below with a lot of windows & fans running upstairs...
It is an interesting housing, but is not as inexpensive, nor as durable, and to be livable here, still needs a conventional substructure.... added to that is the ability to withstand the elements (VOG was causing some problems with the one in Kau)
There are many other green type constructions that will last as long, or longer, than the yurt....hence more green in the long run..
ideas: bamboo (but must be treated to last any time here), used containers (very excellant re-use option & very durable if mantained) and various -cretes that reuse aggregates.
It is great to look into the options...
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Yurts in the wet areas - imagine living in a tent full time that is constantly damp at, at least 25% humidity.
I have looked at the options of building green, no matter what, you do have to have your basic infrastructure of electricity, water and waste.
I have a couple of plans for used shipping container homes based on a 3 box and 5 box system, including catchement. Although they are rough drafts, you are welcome to them. I am considering building at least one such home on our HOVE lot.
An alternative for drinkable water is the "water from air" machines that are available. Developed for areas that could not sustain regular wells or catchement systems, they are a great alternative to catchement for drinking water as they would produce at least 5 gallons of drinking water per day.
Anyway, email me and I'd be happy to scan the drawings I have for the shipping container houses. It is my understanding that the 9' high containers are available on the BI for about $3K a piece (pre-bartering).
I hate the fact that "building green" has been turned into such an elitist venture for the wealthy. I figure my plans should come in at about $25-35K with basic infastructure using marine wind power, passive solar, and recycled materials and still give you a nice comfortable home.
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I would like to see your plans for the container house, whats the estimated cost on setting, and putting the structure together?
Is their anyone out here actually living in a yurt, i agree it needs to be 8 feet off the ground for good ventilation.
What about putting a lanai around the yurt for a little more wind blockage?
I think the idea of the yurt intrests me the most is that it is portable, thus you can move it if that peski lava decides to head towards your home.
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I have an insanely boring job and with all of my extra time I use "google sketch" to draft up shipping container homes. The program allows you to import container images that are to scale i.e. 40'/20' and all the other images you need to complete the drawing. I guess it's sorta like CAD but much easier to work and produces some top quality sketches. The program has shared drawings that you can use, that other people have created so you dont have to start from scratch.
Some of the container home plans are really cool and are basically free for you to use and modify. You ca add glass and all different types of textures. Anyways, I agree on the 25k-30k estimate fr the container hometo be completed to a decent level.
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The shipping container. How much portable can you get?
I think 2 containers with a center covered, screened lanai would be the ideal portable green housing (set up the containers parrell to each other on concrete piers that allow easy on/off loading). 1 container a 2 bed 2 bath unit (if using 40's, 1 bed 1 bath using 20's) the other container a great room with kitchen & 1/2 bath. Between the two would be your covered screen lanai. The bedroom open up to the central screen room. No halls, square rooms, more standard const. Add windows & doors. Easy also to make this fairly hurricane/vandal resistant. (added plus, you can always pack up everything, except the concrete piers & waste containment, into the great room container & ship it out.)
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Carey, I'm going to take a 40' container and tack weld a 20' on the top "canty'd" out five feet over the end. The doors for the top 20' container will open out over the cantilever. The base 40' container will keep the original steel doors but have a more traditional entrance set into the container. The 25 feet on top of the base 40' container is a covered deck. The roof of the 20' container now (+/-) 20' off the ground is a telescope observation deck(may or may not be covered). A spiral stair case will connect the roof of the 40 foot container to the roof of the 20' container. Totally off grid and catchment too. I plan on tacking hinges to all the container cut outs so I can put the cabin on lock down as well when needed. I figure when a big hurricane hapens or I have to leave for extended periods of time, I can have some peace of mind. I have satelite pics with images overlaid with the cabin for scale ..lol Working on the model as I type this. "With hot glue...I can do anythingggg"
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Why don't you post some of your sketches on Punaweb Friends?
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