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Gone from Public to Charter school?
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I have two daughters in HAAS which is a charter school in Pahoa. I believe HAAS has just been going through an accreditation process.

Our family is very happy with HAAS. The girls declared their first day there "The best first day ever". The teachers are caring and demanding. There's a fair bit of homework to be kept up with and there is theater which has them excited. They are getting good grades, winning some state writing awards and HAAS has a community service requirement of students too.

From what I know HAAS has about 300 students. There has been no fighting or violence at all.

Previously my young ladies attended Auntie Cyndie's School in HPP. Very tearful graduation from Cyndie's. For them Cyndie's is sacred ground.
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Originally posted by Damon

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Many colleges accept students based on their history/proof of wanting to learn and their desire to learn more. They often judge these factors based on volunteerism to one's community, experience and drive. In my experience, a person would be hard pressed not to get into UH. If not there, then surely the community college, which has many ties to UH with far less requirements. As long as you can pay tuition, they seem to take you as a student. Many colleges are of this same mind. It is intensive paperwork and follow-up usually, but it is available as long as the applicant has no faulty legal record. As for charter schools, I have close friends that are teachers in our public schools here, but I believe that their hands are harshly tied these days. Different options in schooling for our children seems essential, especially in such a diverse community, one style does not fit all! Let your child go where THEY WILL THRIVE!! Different children thrive in different situations. Any way you choose, be involved, be aware... I went through no less than 20 schools growing up... changing is Hell, but Oh so necessary sometimes. Change is not an enemy, staying with what isn't working... IS.
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#14
wondering if anyone can respond to the original question?
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#15
I would like to know how much better the charter schools really are.....So, for those of you who have had children in the public schools and then sent them to charter, how much better was it? How was the change?


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Originally posted by aikahimomma

wondering if anyone can respond to the original question?

It was an opinion related question...so giving a precise answer is hard to say.

What is better for one person, could be worse for another. Some people may or may not think the charter schools are better.

I think we all agree that we want what's best for our children.

Maybe some just choose not to post their opinions.[Wink]

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#16
I am going to say something about to the original question. I did not do so earlier because I don't have any kids going to school yet so I don't have any direct input. But since nobody else is stepping in:

I have judged at the Hawaii District Science and Engineering Fair for over a decade. So, I think I have some overview of the situation in different schools, albeit in just the one subject (Science, and perhaps indirectly, Math). This is the basis of my comments, which of course is only part of the story.

I have seen no evidence that the local Charter Schools are better academically than the Public Schools. Maybe one particular charter school may on average send better students to us than one particular public school. But I have not noticed an obvious general trend there. If I try and disregard certain exceptional kids that clearly do well regardless of the school they attend, the only conclusion I would reach with any confidence is that the typical HPA (Waimea private school) student does better than average.

So, I have seen no evidence that you are are in some ways ruining your kids' futures by keeping them in a public school.

In my opinion the important questions are: (a) do your kids feel motivated to learn and (b) are you happy with the social situation at their school (peer influences, bullying etc). If the answers to both of those is "yes", then I think you are okay where you are. If not, you have a problem to solve, but a Charter school may or may not be the best solution.

Hope this helps.
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#17
Thank you Frossie, I think you have a unique perspective and I am glad you decided to give your input.
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#18
thanks frossie for responding and damon for doing the quote thing ( i did not do my quote homework yet!)
i would like to add some positives about our public school experience so far..
for instance, Keaau Middle and High have a band program with a strong teacher...think
Mr. Holland's Opus local style...my daughter can now play some good flute..
and while she was at Keaau El she took chorus and was flown free to Oahu to sing with the symphony!!
she has a math teacher who uses fishing experiences that help the kids get the math concepts...her english teacher is just plain awesome...
just want to shed some positive light on the public schools here, as over the years i have noticed an increased paranoia and bashing that does not reflect our reality...

I was hoping some of those folks that were defending WOL/charter schools on that other thread would further enlighten those of us who are clueless to the differences of charter versus public...and Damon i don't buy the idea that there aren't people out there willing to comment based on how much input went into defending WOL recently.
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Originally posted by Rob Tucker

I believe HAAS has just been going through an accreditation process....


correct

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Originally posted by aikahimomma
.... Damon i don't buy the idea that there aren't people out there willing to comment based on how much input went into defending WOL recently.


I just think it's a touchy subject and one that not many people would really want to talk about.

Obviously if you are happy with the school your kids are at... your gonna be happy, if not... then your not going to be.

Many people would love to get their kids out of the schools they are currently in... All over the world. Schools are often thought of as a "Drop off" place for children. If the parents aren't happy with where they are dropping there kids off or sending their kids too...then they are going to change.

I bet you might hear more responses in a thread entitled... Hawaii Schools vs. Mainland Schools. Because many people that move to Puna are expecting the Public Schools in Hawaii to be like they are in the Mainland and they simply are not.... so they think that Charter Schools is the option.

The whole thread title is kind of quirky... As Charter Schools are Public. [Wink] But I think we all know what your trying to get at.

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