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I think this is so funny, actually, because it is a rubber hits the road kind of engineering, excuse my snot value here please, but I've personally spent thousands of bucks figuring this out, and I'm not willing to tell others how to do it for 15 dollars an hour.
But, if you're clever you will understand. . .
The key is, in Hawaii,. .
Biologic action, no problem except bugs.
Controlling bugs is the issue, in design, in fact, you may as well consider site bug control the issue, as you've a major attractor, hence trap.
Malathion isn't a bad idea, in a trap.
Ideally, when you possess an urgency to sculpt a likeness of the Ayatollah, blasphemous as it might be, you would prefer to not be accosted by the Lord of Flies. This so much is sensible.
God, sorry, laughing so hard I can't add more.
Ah, hell, I'll show you how. Give me a ring.
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The system described in the Humanure Handbook is not a composting toilet, it is a bucket full of sawdust with a toilet seat, and a separate compost heap. I think making a complete system built into a toilet is not the best way to go but only comes from trying to directly reproduce a flush toilet (push a little lever and it's out of sight & out of mind). Invest the effort to empty the bucket daily. Let the white wigglers frolic way out back.
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I've personally spent thousands of bucks figuring this out, and I'm not willing to tell others how to do it for 15 dollars an hour.
JW,I discovered your secret!
Hooligal,I know what he was using on maggots.He puts this sign
somewhere they can see:
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O O
"That's kiss my arse".(JW)
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LOL!
Well, it just goes to show that where one lives may influence one's perspective of the divine presence. . .
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Different latitudes, different attitudes - should you be a Buffet fan.
I suppose you could import a huge quantity of geckos to eat the bugs, although that would only work after the wigglies have hatched out and are flying around? Heat the load up enough that wigglies won't be in it, but aren't they part of the whole process?
I guess we can tell Jay is a guy from his little cryptogram, there, huh? Girls would have to replace the two "o"s with "\\", "][" "!!" or some such, huh?
"I like yard sales," he said. "All true survivalists like yard sales."
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I guess we can tell Jay is a guy from his little cryptogram, there, huh? Girls would have to replace the two "o"s with "\\", "][" "!!" or some such, huh?
OK, I am out of this thread-not only stinky,but x-rated!
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Ok, I've been suffering guilt for not giving up the knowledge. I've always given it away at my own loss, so why start otherwise now.
That being said, I'm more than a little concerned of the "composting toilet" set. None of us need someone(or a dozen) people crapping in a bucket and flicking it in their yard, sawdust or no, and when you sort through into the mix, realizing someone probably picked up hep C at burning man from some little cutie pie and doesn't know it yet, it gets a lot more ugly. I think done right it's better than pumping it directly into the ground, which is the status quo, but there's abuses in everything.
I'll put some plans together and post them.
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Huh. I thought that if you cooked it long enough, all pathogens are killed. Like 18 months sealed? Granted, that's a lot of sealed 5 gallon buckets stashed around the property, but like you said, it's got to go somewhere.
I laughed out loud at the Burning Man comment, then really thought about it & realized, yuck yeah...you're right. There are lots of things I loved about BM (har) but the STD fallout afterward is depressing to hear about.
Thanks mucho, in advance, for sharing. I won't run with it & make millions. You have my word on the web for all to see. Had that happen to me already...didn't yield millions, but sucked all the same. Don't care to do that to someone.
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The Humanure Handbook made it clear that proper (hot) composting was required to safely kill disease organisms. If an individual or a close-knit family were using the bucket/hot compost method I believe it would work because they could be trusted to do what was necessary, but definitely there is a risk if you are depending on individual responsibility and competence. I'm sure there are those who would just crap in a bucket and toss it outside. It is hard to imagine that someone who was disfunctional enough to be using drugs, committing crimes, or knocking around family members would at the same time be fastideous about turning the compost to keep it cooking.
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Real solutions for real people. Amen! At this point I'm too afraid of some kid taking it and selling yurts or some crap under a trust fund and my name, for way more money than I would. No thanks, period.
What the? Where in the world do yurts come into this??? Cripes, man[  ]. Composting toilets? Yeah, I had a similar experience, they rather suck, not just for the bugs, but the upkeep is quite a chore. I don't know about those burning ones though, they seem like a decent idea, but I agree, with JWFitz, septic is best in the end.
However, I will speak out on the yurts, of course. Yurts are not crap or anywhere close unless you get a crap manufacturer or do a crap job building it. They work for many people all over our island and have for over 20 years, google the two and find out for yourself.[8D]
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