Mainland you can have it

[DickWilson]

Dave, Think I'm going to have to get off the soap box. Just blew the cuff apart on my blood pressure monitor and the dog is trying to crawl further under the sofa.[!]

dick wilson

[LaurelJ]

VIVA LA REVOLUCION

[DickWilson]

Laurel; Thats Damn sure what we need!

dick wilson

[loffelkopffl]

with the financial meltdown happening it appears the warmonger in chief is desperately trying to jumpstart another war,with almost daily bombing strikes in pakistan, hey it worked for them before, the politics of fear................

[DickWilson]

Miserable bastards will do anything to take the focus off their criminal incompetence. Send more troops to die in a useless war, just don't look at what they've done to our country. Impeachement, trial for treason, short rope, long drop. Problem solved.

dick wilson

[JWFITZ]

I'm completely with Dick on this one. We're not only seeing the financial disaster of a lifetime but the biggest theft in human history. The cynicism among policy makers is hard to be believed.

We've a long long way to go before this is over. I suspect we won't see much approaching order till well into 2010, that the major indexes will slide near 30 percent before the bottom, and the housing market has got at least another 25 percent to go--and that will mean a market where there are still few buyers who are either willing or able to take a house one. Locally for Hawaii the major impact will be huge budget shortfalls due to the more or less evaporation of income across the board. Locally, I think this will be the most significant issue and much need services will most certainly be cut. A lot of people who are hanging by a thread are finally going to fall through the cracks.

I'm investing in Taro and Uala, mostly.

[mella l]

History Repeats It's Self

Stocks tumble after government bailout of AIG 9-17-08


THE PAST

The Robber Barons/Captians of Industry

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robber_baro...strialist)

Robber baron is a term revived in the 19th century in the United States as a pejorative reference to businessmen and bankers who dominated their respective industries and amassed huge personal fortunes, typically as a direct result of pursuing various anti-competitive or unfair business practices. The term may now be used in relation to any businessman or banker who is perceived to have used questionable business practices or scams in order to become powerful or wealthy.

It was popularized by U.S. political and economic commentator Matthew Josephson during The Great Depression in a 1934 book. He attributed its first use to an 1880 anti-monopoly pamphlet in which Kansas farmers applied the term to railroad magnates. The informal term captains of industry may sometimes be used to avoid the negative connotations of "robber baron".


The Great Depression

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Depression

The Great Depression was a worldwide economic downturn starting in most places in 1929 and ending at different times in the 1930s for different countries. It was the largest and most important economic depression in world history, and is used in the 21st century as a benchmark on how far a modern economy could possibly fall. The Great Depression originated in the United States; historians most often use as a starting date the stock market crash on October 29, 1929, known as Black Tuesday. The end of the depression in the U.S. is associated with the onset of the war economy of World War II, beginning around 1939.[1]


The Present and Future?

The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism

Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine advances a truly unnerving argument: historically, while people were reeling from natural disasters, wars and economic upheavals, savvy politicians and industry leaders nefariously implemented policies that would never have passed during less muddled times. As Klein demonstrates, this reprehensible game of bait-and-switch isn't just some relic from the bad old days. It's alive and well in contemporary society, and coming soon to a disaster area near you.

Military coups, violence and force, wars, induced hyperinflation, terrorism, preemptive war, climate disasters - these have been the disruptive vehicles that allowed such drastic economic packages to be imposed. Nearly always, they are developed in secrecy and implemented too rapidly for citizens to respond. The end results, as Ms.Klein again makes clear, are massive (and too often, continuing) unemployment, large price increases for essential goods, closing of factories, enormous increases in people living in poverty, explosive concentration of wealth among a small elite, and extraordinary opportunity for rapacious capitalism from American and European corporations.

mella l

"Resolve to be tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant with the weak and wrong....because sometime in your life you will have been all of these."

[DickWilson]

And why doe's this seem so accurate. King George is an expert at this. As we bomb Pakistan, Need more police state power for his private
Gestapo, Surrender our freedoms on the altar of safety from terrorism.

dick wilson

[mella l]

Perhaps it is unkind to shine a light in the corner, but I just can't help it.

Received a thank you from Joe Biden today on behalf of his party. My reply included that my donation wasn't made to the party, but to an individual who represents a party. I am no longer associated with a party, there is blame to share. Having said that the past 7 plus years of deception, corruption and out and out lies, and the current thievery, have surpassed the most vivid of nightmare scenarios. Thanks Joe, keep the marketing props and DO SOMETHING!

We will need the equivalent of D-9"s to dig out of this financial crisis, and we are going to be left with plastic take out spoons. The golden Goose of the middle class that built this nation up is being consumed, even as the ticker dives.

mella l

"Resolve to be tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant with the weak and wrong....because sometime in your life you will have been all of these."