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Pitbull ban in Hawaii
#11
All dogs should be licensed and the owner held responsible for their actions. Of course all drivers should have insurance. That doesn't/won't happen either.

Retrievers have been bred for hundreds of years to retrieve. Sight hounds have been bred to chase. Pointers bred to point. These efforts have been successful in that retrievers retrieve like no other dogs, pointers point like no other dogs, and hounds chase like no other dogs. Pit bulls have been bred for hundreds of years to attack and keep attacking. If retrievers retrieve instinctively and pointers point instinctively, how could it even be possible that dogs bred for hundreds of years to attack would not attack like no other dogs? Pit bulls are different than other dogs the same way that pointers are different from other dogs.

Practically speaking, I don't know how such a ban would be enforced particularly for mixed breeds. What would make more sense would be to require and rigidly enforce dog registration and certain other laws regarding dog welfare. Any dog found without a registered owner becomes the property of the state to be adopted out (after neutering) or euthanized if it is not adoptable. Yes, certain dangerous breeds would still be around but there would be a mechanism for putting pressure on owners whose dogs caused trouble.
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#12
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Originally posted by EightFingers

Why own a pitbull terrier?
I have not received a logical or reasonable answer to this question since I've been asking it over 20 years ago.
Yep , you hit a nerve with this one.....


Question... why own a cat. I have not received a logical or reasonable answer to this question since I've been asking it over 30 years...

Yep, you hit a nerve with this one... [Big Grin]

You know I'm just playing... but think about it. Why question what type of animal someone loves?

I know people that love SNAKES!


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#13
Snakes are not legal in Hawaii. Some breeds of cats are not legal in Hawaii either.
Assume the best and ask questions.

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#14
Damon, you can't "own" a cat, the cat "owns" you!*


* I don't have a cat, but used to when I was a kid.
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#15
Ain't that the truth.


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#16
http://www.hawaiisenatemajority.com/2009...nd-or-foe/

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#17
Thanks Damon. I knew you would find it[Smile]

Here is my problem. We have a neighbor who is currently training his pit bulls to attack. He has even posted a video on youtube. He chains them up but they always get loose. They are terrorizing the neighborhood. They have attacked dogs (who were in there own fenced yard) torn there ears by trying to pull them through the fence. They have killed neighbors chickens and continually roam the neighborhood. Humane society has been called so many times they stopped coming when called. Nothing happens to the owners. Humane society says they can not do anything until it bites a humane. All they can do is pick it up if they see it roaming around. Usually the dogs go home by then since it takes so long for them to show up. There are small children that live near the home. It is a ticking time bomb. Unfortunately I feel nothing will be done until a child is killed or hurt.
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#18
Next thing you know they try to ban marijuana, ah oh yeah it is banned, thats why it does not exist anymore in Hawaii.


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#19
Why question what animals people love?

Love may not be the psychology in play. How about a person playing out inner aggression through keeping an aggressive animal? It's rather hard to do by owning a cat, as they won't do anything they're instructed to do. [:p]

People can acquire pets as an extension of their ego, or personality. Asshole people manage to own the dogs from hell, dogs that can kill or maim people. We're not allowed to challenge their right to behave like Jade's neighbor because dogs are also pets, and pets are GOOD?

Jade's example is good. The Humane Society has no teeth here. Sure if you trap an animal on your property they will take it, and the owner can redeem it, but who wants to trap a trained pitbull? Oh and then live with the fury of the owner. If there was an ordinance against raising such dogs, the HS could put an end to the problem before someone gets hurt.

This is Hawai'i, not Big Brother land. No one is going to go door to door taking people's dogs, like Beachboy's pitbulls. The ordinance would come into play if the dog became a problem and earned complaints, and to stop importation in the future. Don't you think?
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#20
Strange dog in my yard and it looks like it is going to attack... dead dog.



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America "IS" everybody else.
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