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out of the "climate zone" ?
I am wondering if anyone has some progress with the plants
(fruit trees,berries, nuts,etc.) not particular suitable for Hawaii
climate?
A while ago someone posted about blueberries..
Raspberries,cherries,pine nuts([:0])?
I know,you can not fool the mother nature..
Anyone dared?
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Raspberries do to well here, to the point that a few varieties are weeds, are some are considered invasive nuisance plants.
There is one endemic species of Raspberry (Rubus hawaiiensis) that is on the evolutionary 'island unique' species that has lost most of its thorns (there was no need for a plant to have thorns on an island with no grazing mammals...)
For a list of weeds in Hawaii (to find the raspberries, scroll down to the 'Rubus':
http://www.ctahr.hawaii.edu/forestry/Dat...Hawaii.asp
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Thank you,Carey!
I wish blueberries are weeds too in Hawaii...
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I planted some thornless blackberries and so far the Japanese beetles have been well fed. The low chill lilac has not really thrived but it's not dead yet either. Some of the low chill peaches have done really well, especially the cultivar named "Florida Prince". Some of the other peach cultivars haven't done as well.
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Thank you,Hotzcatz!
I knew if any one would dare,it would be you!
I am glad "Florida Prince" made it.
How are you fighting those Japanese beetles?
Too bad they are flying faster than chicken![
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I don't fight bugs other than keep chickens and other "passive" deterrents. There is a fruit fly trap in the vegetable garden along with a lot of companion planting and marigolds all over but that's about it for actual bug control. I also plant extra so if the bugs get a few there's still some left for me.
There are too many things to do to spend much time coddling a plant. If it thrives, good, if it doesn't well, something else can be tried in that spot after a bit. If the plants aren't happy in one spot in the yard sometimes I'll move them to a different spot otherwise I just let them die off and find a different plant that is happy there. If they do thrive, then I multiply them and give a few away so if something happens to the original, I can borrow some back again.
There is a lot of selection before getting the various plants. Chilling requirements, pollination requirements, sun and water requirements, etc. and even after all this, frequently the plants just won't thrive. Lavender doesn't like my area but rosemary (a very similar plant) grows to the size of a small tree. Sometimes the landscape can be altered so the plant thrives without having to work at the alteration. Putting chunks of coral around the base of a plant that doesn't like acid allows it to grow in the yard but I wouldn't keep the plant if I had to go out and put calcium on it every week.
There is a certain level of experimentation that goes on all the time. There is also the usual gardening which goes on which is almost guaranteed to provide a crop. Probably about eighty percent "usual" gardening and twenty percent "experimentation". When the experiments turn out well, they evolve over to the "usual" column and then something else becomes "experimental".
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This is the best approach to the subject!
Side question - are chicken eating more in your garden than just bugs?
And how do you do the damage control?
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The garden is fenced in so the chickens eat the bugs in the general yard area which leaves less bugs to go to the garden. Once the garden is pretty much done in late summer, the chickens get to go in and scratch around. They don't damage large plants but wreck complete havoc on sprouting beds. One year I got all fussy and did the garden the "proper" way with everything in a row with a label on it. The next day the chickens got in and scratched everything every which way. I think they even ate a couple of the labels since I never even found them all. Oh wellos! Things still sprouted, at least the ones that didn't get eaten, but they weren't in tidy rows anymore.
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Both of my Southern HighBush blueberries are growing happily & throwing a few berries. The Pomegranite is growing nicely, but not sure it'll fruit. I'm down in mostly warm & dry-ville (Kapoho).
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