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Originally posted by Rob Tucker
Yeah, It's a shame to take an important subject to this island and depreciate it with nonsense. But that's what some people do. The recurring theme is the topic quickly becomes about the nonsense.
Aloha, Rob.
Actually, that(plus the techno hassles) is why I decided to back off of the idea of doing a blog myself.
Thank you for your persistence.
Also, please do let the Council know your feelings about Resolution 66.
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you might want to ask "what do you mean", before you assume I am so uninformed...
Most trash is not toxic and could be placed anywhere on the planet with out a problem... also, if its organic, you can make a nice soup out of it and place it in the deep ocean and it becomes a nice food source.
but then, I am obviously to stupid to have any ideas, or to have read anything on this subject....
Rob, what you may consider nonsense are the ideas of the future.
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Still see nothing that indicates to me you have a reasonable grasp of the issue at hand
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does this mean all of the trash in the state is coming here ?
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That would appear to be the objective, according to the Resolution wording:
"...processing the State’s combined solid waste flow ... this opportunity occurs best on the island of Hawai’i."
Of course, the public needs to be heard from before it actually becomes policy.
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economics of magnitude = economy of scale?
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As resources become scarce, the landfills of today could become the gold mines of the future.
It's certainly worth looking at, if we can get the rest of the state to pay to send their stuff here, and get some Federal grants at the same time, and use the organic part of it for farming.
But no doubt public opposition will put a stop to it. It wouldn't be too good for the image of the Big Island either.
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Originally posted by PaulW
economics of magnitude = economy of scale?
If that is the case, then why not put that in the Resolution? ...that is, if there is evidence that economies of scale are relevant.
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We didn't want to burn it, no consensus has been formed over here to remove the EPA violating existing landfill, the state probably figures they'll be blamed and have to step in and pay for it so might as well do it now.
Besides I thought you liked the idea of composting. And we have a lot of land to do it in, and the resulting compost could make us rich.
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"remove" the landfill is not an option -- a landfill does not go away; and even after being closed, continues to require attention and expenditure.
The proposal would fill the Kona landfill much more quickly because so much of the solid waste cannot be composted: e.g., of the current flow into the Hilo landfill, at least 20% cannot be composted, recycled or anything else. 20% of the "combined solid waste flow in the state" would fill it up quickly.
Compost is fine. We should be making more on this island now -- we are not.
The fundamental problem with the proposal in Resolution 66 is that it is clear the resolution has been written without the benefit of the author bothering to become well informed: e.g., while 'compost' is proposed, all solid waste is said to be what is being dealt with; also, lots of hyperbole about "significant returns" and other comments without any basis for putting forth such statements -- zero evidence is presented.
As for what the state "figures", the state has not said anything about it -- this proposal is from the North Kona District Council member.
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