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Anyone Feeling Sick???
#31
Now, back to rice. People who say that others shouldn't panic after
going out and buying 100lbs for themselves, that disturbs me a little.
100lbs is a lot of rice, at least 6 months worth even if you eat
it three times a day.

People who always have a year's supply on hand, as I believe the
Mormons are encouraged to do, don't create shortages when
there's a bit of panic in the air.

If everyone went out and bought 6 months worth of rice, there
wouldn't be enough to go around, which would lead to rationing,
which would lead to more panic.
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#32
Oh, brother!

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#33
Curious, especially because I've most of an acre garden and sweet potatoes and hardly need the rice.

The main reason is I've a neighbor Shiloh who's been very good to me in the time I've been here, but he's a wife and two small kids and isn't the thinking ahead sort. If I'm in a position to hang a bag or two of rice on his gate it seems to me to be a constructive thing. Or anyone else who might need it.

And in the mean time, work double time to make Hawaii as sustainable as possible so when events such as this occur we're not caught with our pants down relying on Walmart.
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#34
Yep if you live on the Island it is just smart to have back up food supplies and way to earn money/sustanance if the tourists go away. The dock workers could go on strike tomorrow and oops the grocery stores are empty and what are you gonna do for toilet paper, ha ?

As for possible Pandemic it hasn't happened just yet. Def. would not travel to Mexico right now unless you just want to sit in a hotel room Smile
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#35
There is one point of perspective we should all keep in these discussions of the swine flu. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention notes that roughly 36,000 people die each year in the U.S. from complications from regular seasonal influenza, and that includes 13,000 so far this year.
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#36
Aloha, Youser. I worked for a Fortune 500 company from 1997-2004. They had a good health insurance plan in which the premiums were low and my contribution was taken off the top so that I didn't pay income tax on that portion. During those years, I used it once for a check-up, once for a minor infection, and another time for something to do with my foot. All were unnecessary but since I had the plan, what the heck. Naturally, eye and tooth care, things that I could have used, were not included.

That aside, I'll address your issues line-by-line:

Again, I'm not going to pay thousands per year out of fear that some day I may have a bad accident. I view that as self-imposed extortion.

Concerning the terminal illness thing, I believe in the quality of life, not quantity. I watched my father slumped in a wheelchair for years, not knowing who he was or who any of his loved ones were. Very upsetting for all but the doomed who need their diapers changed, don't know which end is up, and can't even appreciate the love and emotional support coming from those who care. There is no dignity in that, and if I ever see myself heading in that direction, I'll mail a few letters, transfer my funds to my family, clean up any other loose ends, head out to sea in a small craft with essentials and have one heck of a farewell party for myself; maybe several. To put it another way, some people would prefer to go out with a bang rather than a wimper, and I'm one of them. And if it does go that way and the insurance company deems it suicide and refuses to pay, there would be no burial costs and I do have other funds for my family (some of which are savings due to my not spending it on health insurance).

If I get sick with an ear infection or any other pain I can't deal with, I'll go to a doctor and pay out of my pocket. Even if it's a thousand bucks, that would account for much less than a year's premium on health insurance and I'd still be way ahead of the game.

While on the subject of health insurance, I may have signed up if it were treated in the same light as car insurance. But high premiums are a result of others who run up the bills and I can't bring myself to deal with that sort of Socialism. Also, don't forget the "deductables" and other limits associated with health insurance.

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Life insurance doesn't pay your hospital bills if you are in a bad accident and have to be laid up for months, and what about if you have a terminal illness for years and you are in constant need of care just to be comfortable. What do you do if you get sick, e.g. get an excrutiatingly painful ear infection that won't go away without antibiotics?

You may not be so lucky to die peacefully and quietly one day so your life insurance kicks in smoothly.

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#37
I am wondering if the vog is making me feel sick today. Kona winds? Minor sore throat and ear ache, slight wheezing cough, etc. It seems voggy today. Winds from South so Kona Winds and that usually means vog. Just got over the worst flu I can remember a week ago, but this doesn't feel like the flu did. Anyone else sick from the vog?

Edit: Orange level of not vog but ash particles in Hilo, so I'm guessing that's what is going on with the wheezy cough and all.

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#38
Good luck to you then, Centipede. As long as you can pay for your minor ailments and know when it's time to take that boat ride, you'll be fine. But it's a bit of a crap shoot.

Without insurance a person could wake up in the hospital after having a heart attack and be facing a bill as big the value of their house. Then what do they do? Sell their house.
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#39
I had a bit of sickness last night which is not common for me. I was feeling weak and listless all day and then had a bout of the runs all night. That rooster crowing to wake me up was courting instant death, had he but known it he would have shut up. Things seem pretty okay again, now, but it does seem an odd coincidence.

I don't have all that much contact with folks outside my area although we did meet up with a half dozen U of H students this weekend on an outing. Dunno who they meet up with, but those would be contacts outside my normal group. Hopefully it has nothing to do with the swine flu, but the coincidence does seem a bit odd. Hawaii is supposed to be having high levels of flu right now: (at least, according to Google) http://www.google.org/flutrends/
Here's a possibly more valid site: http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/fluactivity.htm

Stocking up on rice before things get a bit whacko is always good. First things off the shelves in case of dock strikes, hurricanes and other emergencies is rice, toilet paper and Spam.


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#40
Aloha Kokua,

Enjoying Hawaii and friends and not paying attention to news programs! Priceless!

Received a heads up about the flu problems circulating the globe. As I will be flying back to the mainland on the 8th of May, a friend suggested I pick up a surgical mask for the flight home, well that and washing hands repeatedly when out and about.

Went to Longs (next to Safeway) Hilo, Prince Kuhio Plaza, I purchased the last box of surgical masks! The pharmacy tried to order more but were unable to as the supplies are no longer available! Whoa. Ended up splitting the box with another woman who needed three for a flight Thursday.

So people are trying to take notice and proper action.

Having food on hand enabling people to skip shopping for a month or so is a good idea also.

Good luck everyone, wash your hands!

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