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A couple of newcomers
#1
Aloha from Tim and Dave......
We spent a couple of weeks in Fern Forest at the end of April, through the first part of May building a 12x12 outbuilding on the property we purchased last year.

We hope to move there and build a modest "open" houme in a couple of years. While working on the place, we heard a couple of cars (at different times) slow down and stop in front of the path we had made to get into the property. They both waited until we came out and talked with them! That was cool. That kind of thing would most likely not happen on the mainland and we really appreciated it. Both couples talked with us for a while and they welcomed us. Everyone we met (the two couples in their car, and Hana/Hannah? (across the street) really wanted to clue us in to saving the forest. We appreciated that and I hope I'm not sounding arrogant or whatever but.... we are mostly there already and hope spending time on the island will get us there even more so.

We respect (and love) the island, it's culture, it's variety, everything about it. We don't want to change it. If anything, I want it to change me. I have no love of the mainland. Over the years I've come to the hard realization that I have nothing in common with what most mainlanders consider their American Dream.... Bigger, More, Fancier, Consume, Consume some more, Waste. Doesn't do anything for my happiness.

We macheted a path from the road to where we created a clearing for our little project. Everything in that building was hand carried from the rental truck on the road, through our winding path and onto the building site. It's only a 12x12 building but it's the most work I've done in a two week stretch than I think I've ever done before. But it was fun at the same time.

One day we'll want to build some kind of driveway and one of the guys (Mikeo?) we met said he does that kind of work. We'll take him up on it when we are ready in the next couple of years. We have his card. We want to do very minimal damage to the existing environment. Seeing some of the places that were bulldozed what looks like several years ago, it looks like the ecosystem is more fragile than maybe an older more established jungle environment. It's sad to see it trashed and the only thing that grows back is some kind of native grass. No Ohia's, no tree ferns. I'm thinking it would take many years for that to re-establish. Other than a driveway and a small clearing around whatever we build, we want to keep the place as natural as possible. Just clearing out some of the dead (I call them weed) ferns opens up something that is beautiful just as it is. Through all this, I guess what I'm trying to say is that "We mean no harm".

One of the first days working there someone shouted from a truck "Go back to the mainland!!!". I hope you will accept us. We want to live Hawaiian Style, local style. And I am all for trying to educate anyone that comes here (including myself) to save the forest and respect the island and it's ways. It's inevitable that more people will come. I understand it would be hard for locals to see that. But we really want to fit in and cause no harm.

The way mainlanders can be, if we weren't one of them coming in now, an alternative resident could be much worse. Too many of them want to bulldoze the whole thing immediately so they can show off their big fancy house and huge, manicured and useless lawn. Believe me, that's not our values. So..... if you took the time to read this, mahalo. We look forward to spending a lot more time enjoying Fern Forest and the Big Island. We might even get brave enough to venture out to the community center one evening Wink We'd like to get to know more of you.
Mahalo nui loa.... Tim
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#2
Welcome to Hawaii, and Punaweb!
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#3
You've a dozen or so neighbors right up and down your road that are very much involved in doing the same sorts of things, and share very similar values. I'd invite you to introduce yourself to the group, and dare I say it's a rapidly growing "movement" out here.

http://sensiblesimplicity.lefora.com/forum/

I've quite the collection of native stuff that you might enjoy on your lot if it's not there, and have most of the canoe plants in cultivation. If you'd like some cuttings, let me know.

Don't be overmuch concerned about the "localism" as the majority of that comes from people who have no more claim to the island than you might. I expect once you demonstrate how you're going to live you'll receive none of it.
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#4
Oh, and don't whack back any more of the false staghorn fern unless you've something to immediately plant here, as it will spring up in koster's curse and all sorts of stuff you don't want the second it gets light. If you want a ground over, any of the various sweet potato types are easy, edible and fast.
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#5
Welcome Tim and Dave! I think we share common values and dreams.

-Blake
http://www.theboysgreatescape.blogspot.com/
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#6
Honestly "Tim and Dave"
You are being a little paranoid and long winded in your talk...

Trust that the majority of people who may not like you and yell "go back to the mainland" and give you "localism" (whatever that means) are NOT reading this website...

Im going to go out on a limb and say that the majority of people in Punaweb are white, transplanted from the mainland, and probably over 40 and have similar views like you...

Just do what you have to do and be aware of your surroundings and youll be just fine...

Smile, say aloha, and if anyone gives you the stink eye just walk away...
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#7
Aloha Tim & Dave,

Jay (JWFITZ), our own Sweet Potato Prophet, is a great resource and you are in his neighborhood as well. Drop by and chat with him and he will give you great advice on how to live in the forest without hurting the forest as well as how to turn the forest into a food factory. He's a wizard with sweet potatoes and table taros and has loads of interesting ideas on actual sustainable living.

In the meantime, don't worry overmuch about what folks in trucks yell. Once you get a beat up pickup truck of your own, then they will quit yelling things at your rental car.

A hui hou!


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#8
Wow, thanks for your welcoming responses and sorry about the long windedness. Some things are just a little unnerving. We'll get over it. Thanks for all the advice and suggestions on sweet potatoes and canoe plants (hadn't heard that term before). I found a list at http://www.canoeplants.com/contents.html. I did look up Koster's Curse and found.... "Pretty plant - Kill it" and "This plant should be destroyed where ever found!". Sounds funny but will keep that in mind. Lots to learn. Many thanks to you all. Tim
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#9
Aloha Tim and Dave,

That was Mikale and I (Tamara) that stopped and welcomed you as our new neighbors and offered some tips on how to save the forest.It was very nice to meet you both. We great people who live on our road. A few characters as well, but that is everywhere you go. Your place looks great!

I drive by a couple times a day, I will make sure I do not see anyone snooping around or acting suspicious. When will you be returning? We have a thread under the building forum. "On Track", check it out if you want. Glad to see your on the Punaweb.

Take care! See Ya soon!

Tamara
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#10
Sounds like Tim and Dave need to leave Mikale and Tamara an emergency contact number.

Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
Pua`a
S. FL
Big Islander to be.
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