Preparing for Civil Unrest

[Wao nahele kane]

I was going to stay out of this one, but…
Its interesting some-one should bring up the subject. Typically the scenario outlined in the subject is applicable only to dense urban cities.
One of the things that crossed my mind a couple years ago was the impending financial crisis that appeared to be perhaps approaching. Time will tell how things pan out in the long run. When I considered the scenario; I found that the Big Island, particularly, would be one of the safest places in this nation to ride out such a scenario.
Reasons for the assumption are based on the fact that the Island is extremely self-sufficient with regard to basic necessities (medicines etc would be an issue most likely resolved through federal means).
I see it just as has already been cited. The community would pull together and more likely become closer working on solving needs issues and logistical matters.
As per the swine flu, I had it already, so I’m not too concerned about it (most people should weather it just fine). It’s just like any other flu, it just happens to hang on for 6-8 weeks (nearly double normal time for the average flu). I think the reason for the high number of fatalities in Mexico may revolve around the genetics of the populace and lack of treatment courses. Just like other viral bugs, some races are more or less prone to encounter fatalities by virtue of past generation exposure to like type strains etc. No doubt it’s a serious threat to some people but not to everyone.
I lean heavily towards the cooler heads will prevail when it comes to the Big Island.
Oahu on the other hand is another story should we encounter such a collapse.


E ho'a'o no i pau kuhihewa.

[LeeE]

Civil unrest?

The history of these kinds of events show that even during a socioeconomic crisis, people understand that one can't overemphasize the importance of good manners.

[Greg]

Before I moved here, I lived on a much smaller Island (Catalina); One that was even more susceptible to disruptions of service.

One memorable sign I once saw in a the window of a closed business: "No barge today - gone fishing"



punatoons

[Bullwinkle]

Did ya work for Doug?, we may have bumped into each other in the outboard shop, or the "inside bar"

[Greg]

No, I was at Toyon Bay (CIMI) for several years as a Maintenance and Dive guy. (Translates to "Sailing and Diving bum") In 1986, I moved to Avalon and helped build Benny's Hotel. Next stop Hawaii. I bet we have some mutual aquantances. Peace, Greg

punatoons

[Kelena]

Wow. Going from Catalina to Hawaii Island is like going from a pacifier to filet mignon, with garlic potatoes on the side. Omigod. I spent two nights on that "island" with a plain French girl who had, uh, expectations. Je suis comme ça bébé. Je suis désolé. I do think that Hawaii Island is a pretty good place to be during the much bruited Coming Collapse. First and foremost: water! Provided the trades keep up (and that is not guaranteed as there have been some changes in that regard), the water will continue to flow. And there is not enough water elsewhere. Texas---oh my heavens. That poor aquifer. Pump, pump, pump and don't stop until you get enough, or until the phony doctor you hired is too afraid to call a real doctor to revive you. Y'all look thirsty. And dead.

Everything grows (except tomatoes), and I think the Big Island would find its commonality and sense of community pretty quickly. Vitamin C will be easy to come by, and the sound of roosters will be a happy, happy thing.

We will have to station some deserted military from Po-whatever-the-hell-it-is-depleted-uranium place at the harbor to escort incoming boats.....to their death. Whatever they will be bringing (refugees from Oahu, ghost cruise ships commandeered by people fleeing California, rats....) we won't want it. So, we will need to ask them to get over the fact that the lady in the beautiful Easter bonnet waving for help from the cruise ship might be a harbinger of swine death and so you will just have to shoot her.

All those fish ponds at the hotels will become fish ponds again. Teeming, swarming fish ponds.

Anyone with a pool will use the pool as a back-up catchment. They wouldn't dream of swimming in it.

The Thurston Lava Tube will become an important storage area and will also double as a place for the truly paranoid and disaffected who will grab you as you enter and say "Don't go up there! You'll become one of them! Stay here with me!"

The old mango groves in Waa Waa will be a popular place to hang out.

We'll find you can actually cook coquis. 30 seconds each side. Don't flip with a fork -- you'll lose the juices. Use tongs. From, you know, Tonga.

I think it's going to be alright. So long, Earl!

[Bullwinkle]

I bet we do,

I did emerald bay harbor for a while then moved on to the outboard shop after tai left. mostly summers, leaving the boat in panama or costa rica, Harrison H certified me at two harbors....

aloha

[Rob Tucker]

That was fun! Thanks!

[mac nut]

Hey Greg

Its a small world. I live on Catalina Island and work at Toyon Bay Cimi now on maintenance. Was Mark Johnson there when you were there? He is still there as Toyon harbor master. I have a home in Paradise Park (retiring there soon)

Mac nut

[Carey]

My oh My, Glen....
to tie it all up with coqui.... but you forgot that we will be using the steam vents & lava flows for food prep (chef Madame Pele...I do prefer my veggies gently steamed...)

One of the great things about this island is that it is one place (the only one I can think of... but I was in the sun/rain/sun all day... ) that had a larger human population before the industrial revolution than today. Of course it was hard work to keep up the population, esp. with no metal resources, but this island did support the population that worked.

Another plus? Our almost overfilled garbage dumps will look so much more like valuable resource stockpiles if the dooms day ever comes.