07-19-2012, 07:21 PM
Geothermal Primer. Takes five minutes to read. Please sign petition in earlier post if you understand what is happening .Here it is........For those who care! If you grok this info please forward to all your friends.
Geothermal 101: First off. I am not a expert but I have made myself well informed about the hazards of Puna Geothermal Venture’s type of steam production and what I have found out is what I am sharing. You can go to punapono.com and get loads of gov docs and look around for yourself. I was notified by Bob Petricci about four months ago about the geothermal undersea cable being promoted by our fearless leaders ( they don’t fear us because we don’t come out in enough numbers to scare them) both in Oahu and here on the Big Island. Billy Kenoi and Fred Blas are our reps who have something other than the public interest in mind here on the BI. Ormat, the Israeli company who owns PGV has 14 more well permits all down Kapoho Rd. to four corners. Also, more permits are being pulled in the noni farms region and in the Pohoiki road area including near Issac Hale park. This will effect all lower Puna, no one will be exempt. That means you. They need to increase their output to get electricity to Oahu and Maui, although Ormat has already secured permits on Haleakala to do explorative wells. This will suck for Maui but we have our own problems right here, right now. These guys do not think out of the box. They have only compared geothermal to oil. That’s like asking if you want to be beaten with a hammer or a bat. Our so called leaders have never done a comparative study of solar, wind, fuel cell, hydro, smart grid and of course, just plain old conservation. 37% of Hawaii electric needs are for electric water heaters. Go solar water heaters and we just saved 37% of our needs. Pass a law excluding incandescent lights to the islands and we get closer to 50%. Pretty simple reasoning I say, but not for the simple minds promoting one of the more archaic and toxic and dangerous forms of geothermal extraction.
Ormat/PGV with HELCO’s ok and our monies ( we pay 6 times the rate mainlanders pay for electric rates due to some very questionable deals between HELCO, Ormat and the state) to utilize a binary technique whereby they use a mitigating fluid, in this case pentane to generate steam. Pentane is a highly flammable petrochemical that it on the EPA’s very dangerous list. One reason is when it blows it combines with other chemical such as the Hydrogen Sulfide that is released from mother Pele by men playing with fire and produces a even more toxic brew. Add all the other heavy metals being released and the other chemicals they use at the plant and this stuff is a mess. And they are allowed to leak 40 gallons a day plus a whole assortment of gasses released every day because the beautiful pristine agriculture land of lower Puna is allowed to be treated as a industrial mine due to our Dept. of Land and Natural resources renaming Pele’s steam a mineral and the state retains mineral rights. Who’s still with me? I went on a tour or the plant a couple of weeks ago and I asked Mike Kalakini, the plant manager, what is your worst nightmare? I was expecting him to say, another blowout like the one in 1991 where everyone needed to be evacuated. With no evacuation plan. Nope. He said his greatest fear is the 60,000 gallons of pentane they have on site going up in smoke. After reading this,http://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/1476.pdf
I totally understand his concern. Think of BP deepwater or other industrial accidents. Then there is the noise, light and vibration pollution that comes along with the drilling. You do not want to have these things in your neighborhood. But unless you and I stop them, they are coming. To a neighborhood very close. Soon. In 2006 they had a fire and lost all their equipment at that well. Do you remember? I don’t. Why. Secrets. Need to know basis. That kind of crap. I’m letting you know now.
So, where are we? Well, we had just got two bills passed through county council about a month ago after months of hard work. Bill 256 and 257. One essentially says, develop a evacuation plan specific to a geothermal accident. The EPA recommends this, but the county/state have not done one.
Do you know where to go if it blows and the trades are taking the toxic cloud to your home? The other bill says to take the money that Puna is given from the geothermal fund and do the health study of the geothermal plant and the problems that are associated with it that was supposed to have been done in accordance with the original documents signed. Put up adequate monitoring systems and lets get the peoples health and well being to the forefront before we develop any more of these toxic messes.
And then Billy Kenoi, our mayor vetoed them last Friday, after a call from Oahu. Where most of his campaign ( front page news, Sunday paper) money comes from.
That’s enough. Come downtown. Thursday, July 19th, 9:00 AM. County Council building. Google it. Testify that you support the bills and safety is always first. Your’s, your children’s and everyone’s is what this is about. Besides, if you didn’t already know this and do now, what are you going do? Stay home and do yoga, go surfing, sleep, hang out on facebook, do nothing. I don’t think so. You are better than that. Be there. Make friends. Make history. This is 2012 and it’s about people creating the new world. Action. Do It Now. Is what the new world is about. Sitting on the sidelines is the best way to get left behind. Done. Fini, Over and out. Aloha and Mahalo if you made it this far . You are a good person. Now, do the good thing. Damm, one more thing. Overturning Billy's veto will help Dominic Yagong get the Mayor's job and this is good for greenies.
Another bill this week is trying to force HELCO to up the number of folks that can hook solar up to the grid from 15% to 50 %. Lot's of real stuff happening right here. It's occupy here, not there. They are occupying there. Let's mind our own business with our fine Hawaiian minds. Adios for now.
http://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/1476.pdf
nj.gov
Geothermal 101: First off. I am not a expert but I have made myself well informed about the hazards of Puna Geothermal Venture’s type of steam production and what I have found out is what I am sharing. You can go to punapono.com and get loads of gov docs and look around for yourself. I was notified by Bob Petricci about four months ago about the geothermal undersea cable being promoted by our fearless leaders ( they don’t fear us because we don’t come out in enough numbers to scare them) both in Oahu and here on the Big Island. Billy Kenoi and Fred Blas are our reps who have something other than the public interest in mind here on the BI. Ormat, the Israeli company who owns PGV has 14 more well permits all down Kapoho Rd. to four corners. Also, more permits are being pulled in the noni farms region and in the Pohoiki road area including near Issac Hale park. This will effect all lower Puna, no one will be exempt. That means you. They need to increase their output to get electricity to Oahu and Maui, although Ormat has already secured permits on Haleakala to do explorative wells. This will suck for Maui but we have our own problems right here, right now. These guys do not think out of the box. They have only compared geothermal to oil. That’s like asking if you want to be beaten with a hammer or a bat. Our so called leaders have never done a comparative study of solar, wind, fuel cell, hydro, smart grid and of course, just plain old conservation. 37% of Hawaii electric needs are for electric water heaters. Go solar water heaters and we just saved 37% of our needs. Pass a law excluding incandescent lights to the islands and we get closer to 50%. Pretty simple reasoning I say, but not for the simple minds promoting one of the more archaic and toxic and dangerous forms of geothermal extraction.
Ormat/PGV with HELCO’s ok and our monies ( we pay 6 times the rate mainlanders pay for electric rates due to some very questionable deals between HELCO, Ormat and the state) to utilize a binary technique whereby they use a mitigating fluid, in this case pentane to generate steam. Pentane is a highly flammable petrochemical that it on the EPA’s very dangerous list. One reason is when it blows it combines with other chemical such as the Hydrogen Sulfide that is released from mother Pele by men playing with fire and produces a even more toxic brew. Add all the other heavy metals being released and the other chemicals they use at the plant and this stuff is a mess. And they are allowed to leak 40 gallons a day plus a whole assortment of gasses released every day because the beautiful pristine agriculture land of lower Puna is allowed to be treated as a industrial mine due to our Dept. of Land and Natural resources renaming Pele’s steam a mineral and the state retains mineral rights. Who’s still with me? I went on a tour or the plant a couple of weeks ago and I asked Mike Kalakini, the plant manager, what is your worst nightmare? I was expecting him to say, another blowout like the one in 1991 where everyone needed to be evacuated. With no evacuation plan. Nope. He said his greatest fear is the 60,000 gallons of pentane they have on site going up in smoke. After reading this,http://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/1476.pdf
I totally understand his concern. Think of BP deepwater or other industrial accidents. Then there is the noise, light and vibration pollution that comes along with the drilling. You do not want to have these things in your neighborhood. But unless you and I stop them, they are coming. To a neighborhood very close. Soon. In 2006 they had a fire and lost all their equipment at that well. Do you remember? I don’t. Why. Secrets. Need to know basis. That kind of crap. I’m letting you know now.
So, where are we? Well, we had just got two bills passed through county council about a month ago after months of hard work. Bill 256 and 257. One essentially says, develop a evacuation plan specific to a geothermal accident. The EPA recommends this, but the county/state have not done one.
Do you know where to go if it blows and the trades are taking the toxic cloud to your home? The other bill says to take the money that Puna is given from the geothermal fund and do the health study of the geothermal plant and the problems that are associated with it that was supposed to have been done in accordance with the original documents signed. Put up adequate monitoring systems and lets get the peoples health and well being to the forefront before we develop any more of these toxic messes.
And then Billy Kenoi, our mayor vetoed them last Friday, after a call from Oahu. Where most of his campaign ( front page news, Sunday paper) money comes from.
That’s enough. Come downtown. Thursday, July 19th, 9:00 AM. County Council building. Google it. Testify that you support the bills and safety is always first. Your’s, your children’s and everyone’s is what this is about. Besides, if you didn’t already know this and do now, what are you going do? Stay home and do yoga, go surfing, sleep, hang out on facebook, do nothing. I don’t think so. You are better than that. Be there. Make friends. Make history. This is 2012 and it’s about people creating the new world. Action. Do It Now. Is what the new world is about. Sitting on the sidelines is the best way to get left behind. Done. Fini, Over and out. Aloha and Mahalo if you made it this far . You are a good person. Now, do the good thing. Damm, one more thing. Overturning Billy's veto will help Dominic Yagong get the Mayor's job and this is good for greenies.
Another bill this week is trying to force HELCO to up the number of folks that can hook solar up to the grid from 15% to 50 %. Lot's of real stuff happening right here. It's occupy here, not there. They are occupying there. Let's mind our own business with our fine Hawaiian minds. Adios for now.
http://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/1476.pdf
nj.gov