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Is there a political clique in Puna?
#1
Is there a political clique in Puna?
I say YES! Here is my slant...

My neighbor contacted me and she was livid about the meeting that NO ONE KNEW ABOUT. Graham Ellis, founder of the Hawaii Volcano Circus 501c3, Senator Russell Ruderman, and ex-Mayor Harry Kim, hosted a "community leaders" meeting on a Thursday , September 18, 2014, at SPACE.

Oh, I guess it was only for "community leaders" and that's why us so called ignorant ones, us lowly constituents, weren't invited. As if we cannot be part of the process in determining our future in the lower lava zone. This meeting took place on private property. It should have been held at a public place like the community center or the high school cafeteria where, at least, we could be privy to the discussions of these so called "community leaders", where we could have identified them all by putting a face to them and been allowed to ask written questions or make comments or whatever.

That is the way it goes in a democracy!

I assume planning for the future , according to Senator Ruderman's partaking, has nothing to do with his constituent's participation and attendance. I suppose they will let us know, somehow, after the leaders and the direction have all been decided. Perhaps in a couple of months, Senator Ruderman, will put out a newsletter, telling all of us, what they are going to implement. And perhaps he will run up a piece of legislation that will mirror SB 2274 under the guise of "sustainability" once again.

It is imperative to track this scheme, that Graham Ellis has concocted, which is supported and endorsed by Senator Ruderman and ex Mayor Harry Kim, from the beginning.

I am sick of these grandstanding politicians and self-serving community leaders. I don't like being dictated too. I would rather participate in building consensus and then take action.

Four days after this clandestine meeting, Dena Smith,interim director and Graham Ellis's domestic partner, posted an URGENT NOTICE on her facebook page as a follow up and summery to the private meeting. Here she quotes Graham Ellis's proposal plan. Mr. Ellis states "As president of the Hawaii Sustainable Community Alliance (HSCA), I proposed that we serve as the umbrella organization for the development of a lower Puna community plan addressing the future needs as what is being described as the the lava zone."

You know the SPACE relief station would have been a good demonstration of how they would take and handle such a task.

And that is the reason that our neighbor and others are especially angry about this meeting. In the aftermath of tropical storm Iselle, and the lava making its move towards Pahoa, Graham Ellis and his minions, absconded, pilfered and pirated relief provisions that were meant for the Seaview Kalapana Estate subdivision as a whole .

According to the food basket, after the storm, two people from SPACE representing themselves as having nonprofit 501c3, promised that they would see to it that food donation were distributed to the residents of the Seaview subdivison.

What happened to the food is a mystery.

The two individuals took the donations (in the Hawaii's Volcano Circus van?) back to the SPACE 'relief station' which is basically on private property, in the back and outside of our subdivision, with no high visibility or reporting to the association, of these most 'generous offerings'.

Why didn't the SPACE relief station distribute the food donations on the front law or in the pavilion so that the Seaview residents could have easily seen them and passed the word that they were available? Why didn't they call the radio stations and make a public service announcement about the food and how one could get it.

This is a post on facebook Dena made the 14th about going around Seaview selectively making deliveries. It sounds like they gave out ice and water yet I can't help but notice the omission of the food that they acquisitioned or acquired from the Food Basket?

Dena's fb post "Graham and I just finished going around Seaview with a truckload of drinking water and ice going door to door. It felt a lot like Halloween...except it was "Water or Ice?" instead of "Trick or Treat?". It gets dark quick here, though, so we're done for the day. Now we're back at the Seaview Lawn for our nightly internet connection. I can't complain...Life IS good..." https://www.facebook.com/denamariesmithg...9283417026

Yes, when did they distribute that food? HSCA's Dena Smith, the interim director, and Graham Ellis, the president, should be made to answer these questions. It doesn't make any sense at all for this group of shady characters to be working with a Senator. Shame on you Senator Ruderman!
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#2
Under our Constitution there is still the right of assembly. People can and will get together with whomever they may want to. Nothing illegal about it. I fail to see what you are being so alarmist about. What you posted merely sounds like a clunky rumor mill.
Assume the best and ask questions.

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#3
Is it possible that it is not proper or fair to constituents for our Senator to meet on private property to discuss such an important issue as the future of our community under the umbrella with the very people who have just absconded with food basket donations. Or at the very least failed to distribute the food in a manner it which it was intended? Did you go to the meeting Rob? Are you one of the "community leaders" that want to play the shell game with Graham? Are you one of the people who stepped forward to be a friend of Puna's future? Inquiring minds want to know.

And why do you accuse me of rumor mongering. When the facts present themselves as they are. A 501c3, under the umbrella of SPACE, received a van full of donations i.e. provisions of food that was intended for Seaview residents who were without electricity for a number of weeks. What happened to the food? Somebodies lying up in here over a donation of food. Is it the food bank that is lying or is it the residents of Seaview who got the food and won't admit it?

And Rob, btw you did not answer the question. Is there a political clique in Puna? Yes or NO and with whatever you would like to say about yes or no.
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#4
Not me. But I have met with a good number of elected officials on private property over the years. Where is it required for elected officials to only meet with people on public property? Where is your approval required for anyone to meet with anyone?

If all you can do is ask 'what happened to The Food'. Let me suggest an answer... someone ate it.

As for a political clique in Puna? There are likely several. It would be very unusual for there not to be.
Assume the best and ask questions.

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#5
What you posted merely sounds like a clunky rumor mill.

I would add "tiresome". If the Seaview Contingent is so well-organized with such a serious agenda, how about the approach the State about being granted the right to incorporate as a township, so they can better ensure their own future direction?

That is the way it goes in a democracy!

More like "that's how it goes when people want to discuss issues rather than be heckled by malcontents". Just my opinion, of course.

perhaps he will run up a piece of legislation that will mirror SB 2274

Perhaps he will. That is his "job", for which he was "elected" by his "constituents". Those who find this "offensive" should maybe ask whether they are really the "constituents".

Case in point: all the anti-SB2274 sentiment seems to originate from a very small part of Puna. Is it "democratic" to crucify the Senator for trying to solve these problems?

For the umpteenth time: those who do not wish "sustainability" should address this matter within the framework of the Bill -- specifically, at such time as County is "forced" to create a "sustainability permit process", those subdivisions which Do Not Want can simply ask to be excluded from the eventual Code amendments, or perhaps they can suggest additional review/exclusion to be codified.

Remember this is supposed to be a "democracy". If Seaview doesn't want any "sustainability", that is their right -- to be decided by a majority of those affected. Thus far, I'm only aware of one or two people objecting -- out of a subdivision of 933 lots. (Assuming both own a lot, they represent about 0.2% of the affected landowners, which is hardly a "majority" for the purposes of "democratic representation".)

two people from SPACE representing themselves as having nonprofit 501c3

Earlier versions of this rant claimed that they were "representing themselves as Seaview". Which is it? Gotta keep your story straight...
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#6
Rob Tucker quote:"Where is it required for elected officials to only meet with people on public property?"

Yes, it is true you can meet with politicians on private property when you are trying to get special favors or something like that. But the future of Puna is no private matter! Everything should be a matter of public record when you are dealing with nonprofits and Senators.

This is still a free country and the most current example of the outrageous antics of this rogue 501c3 is for everyone to know, Rob, not just you.
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#7
Yawn.
Assume the best and ask questions.

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kalakoa quote:"If Seaview doesn't want any "sustainability", that is their right"

This isn't about sustainability. This is about having a say over what happens in our backyard. Again I don't like being dictated to by felons, illegal aliens and rogue 501c3's. Were you one of the "community leaders",kalakoa? Was Jon Olson there? You could have talked to Jon about the PCDP and how it would fit into this scheme of Graham Ellis's HSCA under the fiscal sponsorship of Hawaii Volcano Circus (HVC). Here is two more initials...I believe this is all B.S.
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#9
Rob Tucker quote:"Yawn."

Just keep yawning,Rob. You'll be yelling soon! I guarantee it.
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#10
Sativa states;
"Oh, I guess it was only for "community leaders" and that's why us so called ignorant ones, us lowly constituents, weren't invited."

snorkadoodle;
You are absolutely correct Sativa, or if I may, Medicinal Herb Girl.

I think Graham, Harry and Russell, in consideration to you; should schedule a meeting for jealous obstructionists, Coulrophobes, vendetteers, and drug dependent, toothless Rumortoids. Fair is fair.

edit; Grahamer [Big Grin]

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